Final layer of the onion.

[axiom]

40 years of contemplation. As a five-year-old child, I would cry myself to sleep at the prospect of death.

”Who made God?” I would ask my parents, who strangely seemed unable to provide an answer.

20 years of meditation.

Years of psychedelics, including full-blown metaphysical breakthrough experiences. 

Years more contemplation, depression, seeking, glimpsing, getting lost again.

The final layer peeled away. Once finally seen it is hilarious.

Immediately a previously unrecognised tension in the body / mind simply drops away. It becomes startlingly clear what was being carried in its absence.

Just wow. Clarity. Perfection. 

@RMQualtrough You’ve got it (so to speak). Enlightenment. Trippy isn’t it?

Such a wonderful and fun community that Leo built here. Not sure whether I’ll stay around… there is obviously no point now except for enjoyment. Much gratitude in any case.

[King Merk]

What’s changed? 

[axiom]

10 minutes ago, King Merk said:

What’s changed? 

Nothing!

[King Merk]

12 minutes ago, axiom said:

Nothing!

This zen shit huh 

Haha regardless, congrats.

Maybe one day I’ll understand what you’re talking about. 

[Raptorsin7]

I call BS. I don't think you realized what you think you realized. 

Are you sure you're "done"?

[Carl-Richard]

12 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:

I call BS. I don't think you realized what you think you realized. 

Why?

[Raptorsin7]

3 hours ago, axiom said:

Such a wonderful and fun community that Leo built here. Not sure whether I’ll stay around… there is obviously no point now except for enjoyment. Much gratitude in any case.

This comment stuck out. This isn't a wonderful and fun community imo lol.

And idk it just strikes me as inauthentic. It seems like this kind of message is appealing to seekers because seeking can be a long and unrewarding path, so they find something to grasp onto like they won or completed something.

And I compare these kinds of messages to my own experiences of progress and they are incongruent. I felt knots of tension in my brain explode leading to complete shifts in perception and my identity on my deepest awakenings/experiences.

But I don't know for sure. Some people are pretty confident that these kinds of neo-advaita messages are suspect, but part of me still wonders if these guys are legit. Maybe this guy is done and now he can live happily ever after, but I just seriously doubt it.

Edited September 1, 2022 by Raptorsin7

[Carl-Richard]

@Raptorsin7

Awakening is a very individual process.

[Raptorsin7]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

@Raptorsin7

Awakening is a very individual process.

I don't get your point.

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Raptorsin7 said:

I don't get your point.

Just balancing out the cynicism.

[Raptorsin7]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

Just balancing out the cynicism.

What's your take

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Raptorsin7 said:

What's your take

I won't doubt a person's awakening unless it's painfully obvious.

[axiom]

1 hour ago, Raptorsin7 said:

This comment stuck out. This isn't a wonderful and fun community imo lol.

It’s perfect. Very enjoyably pointless.

[axiom]

1 hour ago, Raptorsin7 said:

I compare these kinds of messages to my own experiences of progress and they are incongruent. I felt knots of tension in my brain explode leading to complete shifts in perception and my identity on my deepest awakenings/experiences.

All part of the dream.

[Leo Gura]

@axiom I would be very suspicious of your "final layer" if I were you.

[Raptorsin7]

29 minutes ago, axiom said:

It’s perfect. Very enjoyably pointless.

So the meaningless of reality is where you found peace?

[axiom]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@axiom I would be very suspicious of your "final layer" if I were you.

Hello Leo. 

It’s too obvious. A bit like how a nose is always at the front of your face but you don’t really see it (until you do)

[axiom]

38 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:

So the meaningless of reality is where you found peace?

Meaninglessness is all there is… and there is infinite peace and beauty, yes.

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, axiom said:

Hello Leo. 

It’s too obvious. A bit like how a nose is always at the front of your face but you don’t really see it (until you do)

Yeah, well, that don't say much. Could be a dozen things you're still not conscious of.

Edited September 1, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Leo Palhano]

@axiom were you on psychedelics or did it just hit you randomly? I'd be cautious of "the final layer" too, but as @Carl-Richard wisely pointed out, awakening is a very individual process.