What should an ideal life look like?

[Tyler Robinson]

Can we brainstorm on what an ideal life should look like? 

An all-round productive life. 

 

[Nilsi]

1 hour ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Can we brainstorm on what an ideal life should look like? 

An all-round productive life. 

 

Thats something you have to figure out for yourself, thats the whole point of it. 

[Tyler Robinson]

38 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Thats something you have to figure out for yourself, thats the whole point of it. 

No. Anybody can imagine it for themselves. And maybe I can get some pointers for my own imagination. 

 

[Devin]

Nuclear family, happy, content, some friends, healthy, income source you're happy with, plenty of time to relax, a few interests, conscious

[gettoefl]

doing what no one else can do namely  doing what you came to earth to do

in other words not letting the world drag you around by the nose and tell you its priorities like it does everyone else

carve out the life that benefits you and you alone

this takes guts vision will power

[BlessedLion]

Yes agree with these guys. Carving your own vision of life. 
 

For me that’s 

consciousness, nature, high quality sex, close close friends (quality over quantity) strong family bond, freedom, health, stability and lots of learning and exploring

[Tyler Robinson]

1 hour ago, BlessedLion said:

Yes agree with these guys. Carving your own vision of life. 
 

For me that’s 

consciousness, nature, high quality sex, close close friends (quality over quantity) strong family bond, freedom, health, stability and lots of learning and exploring

[Yarco]

The ideal life for a narcissist might involve running a cult. The ideal life for a serial killer probably involves a lot of blood.

Extreme examples, but on the other hand, not really. There's no one-size-fits-all ideal life for everyone, and there are a TON of edge cases. For lots of people, a monogamous heterosexual marriage would be part of an ideal life. But for a polygamist or a gay person it would be hell.

Only you can decide what is ideal or optimal for you. Way way way too many variables. And a lot of them could be opposites, depending on the person. So you'd just be listing everything possible at some point.

[Zigzag Idiot]

Everyone is narcissistic to a degree. It’s okay. ?

Spiral Dynamics makes a good map for differing worldviews. From resolving the disparities of survival / deficiency needs in the lower levels with its variety of worldviews. Conservative/family oriented to materialistic goals at orange and then more progressive at green.  Then second tier and the emergence of Being needs. 
 

Yellow

The transition from the First Tier of Consciousness to the Yellow level of the 
Second Tier is a “momentous leap” according to Clare Graves (1974, 2005), when 
the individual realizes that equally distributing resources among all people and 
expecting that all humans are equally good and loving creates more problems 
than it solves. This leap may occur when life conditions change to seriously 
threaten survival, and the individual/species has to relearn survival (Graves,2002).
There are currently a small number of individuals who operate from the
Second Tier of existence, but the species as a whole has not yet evolved to this
level (Ooten, 2010).
Adherence to the favored group in the Green level is transformed into acceptance
of all people for who they are, where they are in the Second Tier. This acceptance
allows individuals at the Yellow level of consciousness to speak to the listening
of others, regardless of their level. Chaos is seen as part of the natural order
and imperative for change (Graves, 2005). These individuals are highly flexible
in their thinking and are able to see from a perspective that is larger than all
the levels of the First Tier combined (Graves, 2005). The reality of existence is
emphasized and interconnected with spirituality. The individual transcends
self-centered, instinctual and emotional drives to a way of being that expresses
self to the benefit of self and others (Ooten, Unpublished). Individuals at this
level live from the knowing of the interconnectivity of all of humanity, and that
what affects the individual, affects the whole. The focus becomes the continued
existence of all of life (not just humanity), using whatever means are appropriate
given place and time (Beck, 2006). Methods and thinking are fluid, adapting
to conditions. If democracy is appropriate, democracy is used. If consensus
is appropriate, consensus is used. Technology is highly utilized for self and all
of humanity to rapidly network and interconnect with others at all levels of
development, as well as to quickly produce solutions and resources for existential
problems. People at this level can also express a level of arrogance about their
broader perspectives and understandings (Graves, 2005; Beck, 2006). Individuals
at the Yellow level of consciousness are motivated by the continuation of
existence and use acceptance to ensure the continuation of life (Graves, 1974).

Turquoise

The Turquoise level arises when the interconnecting technology of the Yellow
level creates chaos and new global problems. In the Turquoise level, a sense of
order is understood within the chaos of the universe, and spirituality and physics
are combined for a deeper understanding of how the universe and multiverses
operate (Graves, 2005). The idea of the holon is embodied (that the microcosm
reflects the macrocosm and the macrocosm reflects the microcosm; or as above,
below and as below, above). The individual is seen as a part of the larger cosmos,
a conscious collective, which serves the whole and the one as the same, because
they are not separate (Ooten, Unpublished). In the understanding of that
Oneness, individuals at the Turquoise level are aware that all actions and nonactions
impact all beings, all planetary bodies, the entire cosmos (Graves, 2005;
Graves, 2002; Beck, 2006). Individuals at this level see the earth and all living
beings that inhabit the earth as one organism and understand that sacrifices
are necessary by all for life to continue. These individuals learn intuitively and
experientially, are deeply grounded in the metaphysical, and live minimalistically
to create more for all (Graves, 2005). With such a broad awareness, there may
be difficulty with creating direct and focused action. Paradox is embraced and
known as essential (Graves, 2005; Beck, 2006). Individuals who operate from
the Turquoise level value experience and through experiencing, they create
communion with all that is (Graves, 1974).
Enneagram Archetypes within Levels of Consciousness
Spiral Dynamics is a model that describes phylogenetics, the evolution of the
species. The Enneagram of Personality is a tool that details the fixated aspects
of the individual and describes ontogentics, the development of the individual
of the species. Pairing these two systems provides a map for the evolution of
individuals through levels of consciousness. Through properly comprehending
and applying these two systems, we can develop deep compassion and
understanding for our fellow human beings and can be more effective in all
endeavors (Ooten, Unpublished).

 

from http://www.consciousdynamicsllc.com/home/levels_of_consciousness.html

[Tyler Robinson]

@Zigzag Idiot that's huge.  

[BlessedLion]

6 hours ago, Tyler Robinson said:

 

[Someone here]

I don't know .but first thing or the backbone is to satisfy all your desires fully .especially to sex.

[Tyler Robinson]

Just now, Someone here said:

I don't know .but first thing or the backbone is to satisfy all your desires fully .especially to sex.

Agreed!!!! 

[Someone here]

@Tyler Robinson I said this because I'm actually sexually suppressed.  It's kinda odd that you agree . Are you sexually suppressed as well,if you don't mind asking? 

[Tyler Robinson]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

@Tyler Robinson I said this because I'm actually sexually suppressed.  It's kinda odd that you agree . Are you sexually suppressed as well,if you don't mind asking? 

No. What I meant is that I agree that sex is a basic need like all others so I would consider that to be an important component of someone whose life is ideal. 

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

No. What I meant is that I agree that sex is a basic need like all others so I would consider that to be an important component of someone whose life is ideal. 

yes it is a basic life need, just like food, clothes and shelter.. So yes it is necessary. Now some might argue that you can live without it, well, so can you without clothes. But you need them. You can abstain from it, but it is a basic necessity, whether you exercise it or not is up to you.to everyone, but to some it is. It is the cherry on top, the icing on the cake. It makes you see life in brighter colors. It is an experience like any other and it’s unfortunate some people don’t get to experience it often or don’t get to experience it at all.

Fortunately I exist in the Internet era where endless supply of naked women are under my fingertips (pornography).

I don't know what would I have done if porn didn't exist (to surface-level satisfy some of my sexusl cravings ). I would have probably killed myself ?

[BlessedLion]

@Someone here what makes you so convinced that you can’t get any sex if it weren’t for porn?

[Someone here]

9 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

@Someone here what makes you so convinced that you can’t get any sex if it weren’t for porn?

Because I suck at attracting women. 

I always come off as a desperate immature boy when I approach women 

 

 

[Consept]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Because I suck at attracting women. 

I always come off as a desperate immature boy when I approach women 

 

 

You may have had more motivation to work on that if you didn't have all these naked women at your fingertips though. Like if you were a hunter but you could get fake meat which was good enough and you didn't need to hunt, you wouldn't have much incentive to hone your skills and become a good hunter  

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Consept said:

You may have had more motivation to work on that if you didn't have all these naked women at your fingertips though. Like if you were a hunter but you could get fake meat which was good enough and you didn't need to hunt, you wouldn't have much incentive to hone your skills and become a good hunter  

 You are correct.  Why the hell should I do the difficult  work to attract real women in my life when I can just masturbate to any type of women I want? It sure is more appealing to stay in my comfort zone. 

But let's face it..I'm probably never going to sleep with super hot models like pornstars ..so it's ’s quite difficult to find a good substitute for porn. Im dealing with porn addition.

 The more you watch porn and masturbate, the farther you are from reality and real good quality sex with a real woman. Not sure, if i am Interested in women and having sex with them for now, or not…But probably in the future, i will fall in love and problems will come to my bed.

Porn videos are a kind of fantasy world, where women are always sexy, horny, and ready for sex. And happy end happens every time ? That is far not truth in real relationships.

The picture is bright, and emotions are high. You can be a real sex hero with your hand. But what will happen when things will come to reality? I can tell ..no erection or if i get one, it will be difficult to cum with a real woman. It will be a real problem that can destroy my private life.