God is insane

[Aaron p]

Behave in a "normal and rational manner" 

"Reasonable (having a reason) and rational (having a cause)"

 

State of mind that prevents "normal" perception and behaviour...

"Shocking our outrageous."

 

...by what standard does our universe behave "normally" by which rule book...and since when has our universe had a reason or cause? I

I know there are cases of insanity where there are legit mental patients, but if someone had what a doctor would label "psychosis" and he was able to perceive and was aware of the fact that his perceptions were different...he would be a sane, insane person. He could see the irrationality behind his perceptions, but this observation...would be rational. I'm also aware that you can attain adequate knowledge or teachings of wisdom to set up strong structural understandings to prepare you for a loss of control. Like a launch pad. So there is a difference between institutionalised psychotic patients and us haha...the difference is a launch pad of structure, care, wisdom and knowledge and knowing that it doesent mean you have to become someone who isint socially calibrated...but ultimately, it's still a launch pad into complete and utter insanity. 

If god is insane by our definition, I'm just wondering...are these labels "sane and insane" just simplistic categories that are completely made up...

And also I feel like this is one of the most key points to consider concerning certain fears of psychedelics...

the possibility that "insanity" might not be that bad

And if the universe is insane, and I am the universe, I am fully insane 

 

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Edited August 26, 2022 by Aaron p

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Aaron p said:

are these labels "sane and insane" just simplistic categories that are completely made up

Pretty much.

Although some people do batshit lose their minds. And that is not at all the same as Awakening.

But the highest levels of Awakening, to a normie, would feel like insanity.

[Kshantivadin]

2 hours ago, Aaron p said:

...by what standard does our universe behave "normally" by which rule book...and since when has our universe had a reason or cause? I

sanity and insanity is merely defined upon the society you live in, purely normative, its a necessary mechanism to keep society functioning. a positive definition would be - you are sane if you can function in society (and that definition is pretty wide)

Edited August 26, 2022 by Kshantivadin

[Aaron p]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Although some people do batshit lose their minds. And that is not at all the same as Awakening.

...yeah. its just extremely cool because [if im honest], upon some shallow investigation, i think ive realised that one of the main reasons im so scared of the likes of 5meo (scared in principal as opposed to the come up fear that is kind of normal) is my fear of loosing my sanity...but if it turns out that sanity and insanity are kind of the same thing, then i could see myself dropping a large portion of my fearful approach to all psychedelics in principal.

6 hours ago, Kshantivadin said:

sanity and insanity is merely defined upon the society you live in, purely normative, its a necessary mechanism to keep society functioning. a positive definition would be - you are sane if you can function in society (and that definition is pretty wide)

and aye mate, it would appear as though that is the case. i mean, at the end of the day, every generation of doctors and scientists have had [sometimes massively] different definitions of what classifies sanity or insanity, and each of those generations of authority figures have been perceived to be absolute by society...i wonder how absolute or accurate our current authoritative definitions are, and when they will be superseded by different future generations of medical authority figures..  

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Aaron p said:

but if it turns out that sanity and insanity are kind of the same thing

They are not the same thing.

There is genuine insanity which you would never want. But 5-MeO is not going to cause that. At least extremely low odds.

[Aaron p]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

They are not the same thing.

There is genuine insanity which you would never want. But 5-MeO is not going to cause that. At least extremely low odds.

Gotcha, yeah seems legit. I'll do it again, Gona escalate mucccchhhhh slower this time