Todays Young Men?

[BlessedLion]

I am genuinely curious about what’s going on with todays young men and stumbled across some YouTube videos, but I don’t know how accurately they are portraying things, because, well it’s YouTube and algorithms and shit. 
 

Here is what I saw;

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-sD_BqMUb4

 

 

These guys just seem like they have completely given up on women and life. They have all these toxic beliefs around attraction, women, life and money. Honestly they just seem like a bunch of apathetic whiny losers who want to play the victim. They all seem focused on this “hypergamy” idea which I think is bullshit, to some extent it’s true but it’s not like it’s sweeping the world and the top 1% of men are fucking 99% of the hot women. 
 

Most people are still living in reality, right? Where are the toxic mindsets coming from? Is this the norm now? 
 

 

Im genuinely curious because I’ve been out of the loop on what’s been going on in America recently culture wise so please fill me in. 
 

The greedy part of me looks at this as an opportunity to blow the competition out of the water if this is how guys are thinking now, but my heart feels bad for them. 

[Yarco]

Man there was like 5 or 6 antisemitic dogwhistles in that first video, several I haven't heard of before. Kids are getting creative. Compared to most incels and blackpillers I've heard recently, that guy sounds downright positive. At least he's got a sense of humor about it all. Clown world and all that I guess, might as well have some fun if you're going down on the ship.

Second video was a lot more whiny and victim mindset, but I don't blame them either. It's just the world they've grown up in. I can't imagine only having grown up in a post-9/11 world, several prime years of your youth lost to covid.

I only have female relatives in this age group so I can't tell the extent to which this has spread, would love to pick a young guy's brain and see how normalized and widespread all of this really is, or if it's just an online thing.

[BlessedLion]

@Yarco Yeah exactly, same here. I’m wondering if this is just an online trend for guys who are in this niche or this is like the thing and the mindset now. 
 

Fucking pathetic imo, but hey more for us I guess  

[Tyler Robinson]

@BlessedLion you make good points. You earned a follower

 

 

[UpperMaster]

9 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

I am genuinely curious about what’s going on with todays young men and stumbled across some YouTube videos, but I don’t know how accurately they are portraying things, because, well it’s YouTube and algorithms and shit. 
 

Here is what I saw;

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-sD_BqMUb4

 

 

These guys just seem like they have completely given up on women and life. They have all these toxic beliefs around attraction, women, life and money. Honestly they just seem like a bunch of apathetic whiny losers who want to play the victim. They all seem focused on this “hypergamy” idea which I think is bullshit, to some extent it’s true but it’s not like it’s sweeping the world and the top 1% of men are fucking 99% of the hot women. 
 

Most people are still living in reality, right? Where are the toxic mindsets coming from? Is this the norm now? 
 

 

Im genuinely curious because I’ve been out of the loop on what’s been going on in America recently culture wise so please fill me in. 
 

The greedy part of me looks at this as an opportunity to blow the competition out of the water if this is how guys are thinking now, but my heart feels bad for them. 

Looks do matter in dating. Biologically speaking, we almost always tend to appreciate men and woman that look better than the ones that don't. This said, Wheat Waffles highly exaggerates the correlation between looks and respect, and seems to misunderstand how looks plays into dating. He believes that as a man's looks deteriorates, so does his respect from woman and other men. He points to statistics that seem to prove his point: "Most leaders are over 6 feet tall", "Taller men are paid more than shorter men","90 percent of woman go to the top 10 percent men" etc etc. A significant amount of his statistics are either experiments that don't include all the factors of dating (such as the Tinder example) or assume correlation is causation. Shorter men get paid less than Taller men not because their short, but because many short men are simply not confident due to their height, confidence and disagreeableness does increase wages. Putin is 165 cm at most, yet he is the most powerful man in the planet.

 

In my observation: Looks seem to work as a threshold. For example, a 7/10 woman (in looks) will tend to only consider a guy that is 6 and above. Even this threshold tends to completely disappear when we consider someone with higher status. Improving looks however does seem like the simplest straight forward way to increase success, this is because as your looks increase, the less importance you need to put on other aspects of dating (as a result of increasing the threshold). Looksmaxxing is beneficial but obsessing about it will turn you into a pussy, and you will as a result get dominated by more masculine, more interesting men that may look worse than you. 

Another thing I disagree with majority of black pillars is how many of them simply disregard all other aspects of dating (sex, status, confidence, masculine frame, character and mystery). Relationships are very complex. Dumming down a whole relationship to looks is uncalled for. Wheat Waffles says that a huge cause for divorce and break-ups are because of men become less physically attractive over time. This is bullshit. Looks is all about getting you in the threshold, after that its all about masculine frame, game and etc. Not to mention being a decent fucking guy.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2022 by UpperMaster