No mind vs Befriending the mind

[martin_malin]

Tolle :  the self is just a concept, an illusion. No mind ftw!

Kahn : you are real, love yourself. Befriend your mind  

Both teachings can seem in opposition at first and yet, I don’t feel like they are. I find myself oscillating between these two vibes as I resonate with both. 

That said, I sometimes get mindfucked when I contemplate both approaches together. Please help an enlightenment noob! Ty

Edited August 16, 2022 by martin_malin

[TheOneReborn]

You have to learn to let your ego be one layer below you. Let your ego be itself. Just don't get caught up in it, and identify it. 

You are nothingness. You cannot take one step in the world or one breath without the ego. It's the ego which desires to mark the world with itself. Let it do that. Observe your ego. Don't identify with it. Witness how your ego defines itself against your fears, against that which you choose to not be concious of. Just observe our ego, that's really the main idea. 

Over time your ego will become thinner and thinner, and the duality between concious and unconscious within you which creates your ego will become more tangible to you. You will learn to surrender your ego and enter Samadhi more easily, more often. You can only do so by experience and developing your intuitive sense of your beingness. 

Edited August 16, 2022 by TheOneReborn

[caspex]

Both approaches require control over the mind. So it's just the same thing but different aspects are being emphasized. 

In no mind, you have control over the mind, so you can shut it down.

In befriending your mind, you have control over the mind, so you can feel increased self-love and security, etc. 

[Razard86]

On 8/16/2022 at 0:34 AM, martin_malin said:

Tolle :  the self is just a concept, an illusion. No mind ftw!

Kahn : you are real, love yourself. Befriend your mind  

Both teachings can seem in opposition at first and yet, I don’t feel like they are. I find myself oscillating between these two vibes as I resonate with both. 

That said, I sometimes get mindfucked when I contemplate both approaches together. Please help an enlightenment noob! Ty

There is the Buddha no mind path where you cease thought.

There is the love of self where you increase your sense of self to include ALL selves. 

Both paths lead to the same destination. All identities = to no identity.

So it all ends the same way, its just preference.

[Leo Gura]

Show me a human without a mind.

[UnbornTao]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Show me a human without a mind.

Show me a mind.

[Leo Gura]

38 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Show me a mind.

Look around you.

[Bobby_2021]

"Befriending the mind" gives the false notion that there is a you and then there is a mind that is distinct from each other.

There two people then make friends with each other. In reality, only the mind exists. There is no one else to make friends with. 

[gettoefl]

mind is, the world is out there and i am seeing it

rather than the world is 2d movie set perched on my retina, my ear drum etc. which awareness handles not a mind

(and awareness is precisely the world you perceive before mind gets its claws into it)

Edited August 20, 2022 by gettoefl

[Inliytened1]

On 8/15/2022 at 11:34 PM, martin_malin said:

Tolle :  the self is just a concept, an illusion. No mind ftw!

 

Helps you awaken (self inquiry can awaken you)

 

On 8/15/2022 at 11:34 PM, martin_malin said:

 

Kahn : you are real, love yourself. Befriend your mind  

 

Post awakening come full circle and embrace the ego.  Merge self-actualization and spirituality.

[martin_malin]

Many posts itt have been very helpful!
Special thanks to @Razard86 and @Inliytened1

[Razard86]

4 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

I think there are a lot more awakened people then we give credit for...even this pickup coach gets it 

 

Interesting didn't know he did meditation. I know about that guy came across him before. But yeah I think its inevitable. Materialism can only satisfy the ego for so long. God can only distract itself for so long before it wants to awaken to itself as God again. God is going to awaken to itself for all of infinity. 

I believe Leo said it best. God desires to give itself the greatest gift, so what greater gift than infinite love?