There is zero evidence the world is imaginary

[Questioner]

1 minute ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Questioner

   Why are you begging us to provide proof to you that reality is imaginary? Why can't you validate it yourself?

I'm trying to understand why people think the world is imaginary. The point is you can't prove it potentially because it's untrue.

[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, Questioner said:

16 minutes ago, Questioner said:

What precisely do you mean when you say boundaries are only apparent?

What's the difference in your mind between a real and imaginary thing?

 

real is absolute existence. imaginary, the things that seem to arise in it and relate to each other

[Questioner]

21 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

real is absolute existence. imaginary, the things that seem to arise in it and relate to each other

Do things seem to arise or do they actually arise and why?

Edited August 15, 2022 by Questioner

[Questioner]

21 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

How do you know that it can be proven? That's an assumption. You assume that just because something is true it must be provable. You also project your limited understanding of the word "imagination" onto what people are claiming and think that because your understanding of imagination doesn't correlate with their claims, that THEY are the ones who're wrong. Another assumption. I'm going to keep annoying you by telling you to stop with these assumptions. You're playing a childish game. You shouldn't be concerned with God and imagination and all of that kind of stuff. You should be concerned with YOURSELF. Stop running away from yourself. That's what you're doing. Sit down and question YOUR OWN assumptions and YOUR minds ability to apply skepticism in an unbiased manner and stop that nonsense of trying to debunk these claims. If people are wrong just move on with your life. If, one day, you realize that they're right then that'll be it. If you don't you don't. You're not going anywhere right now. I'll just leave you with this:

If you are SERIOUS about wanting to know if what people are saying is true (which it doesn't seem like at all, you seem more concerned about debunking people), then stop asking these pseudo skeptical questions. There is a very simple first step to this process, which you still seem to struggle with. It's to look at YOURSELF and YOUR assumptions and YOUR beliefs and YOUR ideas. YOU, YOU, YOU. Not anyone else. If you start to deconstruct YOUR own ideas eventually you will have room for deeper experiences. But if you're just trying to arrive at the point you're already at, by debunking claims that don't fit into your cute little world view, then you're literally just going in circles. I'm literally just trying to help you break out of thaf loop you're in. So please just accept the POSSIBILITY that there is something you don't see, something which can't be put into words and something you can only find out for yourself. That's ALL I'm asking you to do. I'm not asking you to belief in God or reality being imaginary. I'm LITERALLY just asking you to accept the mere POSSIBILITY of there being more to this. Just by accepting it (truly accepting it, not just saying that you accept it), you'll save yourself and everyone else in here so much time.

I accept that the world could be imaginary now I'm asking for some sort of explanation/justification from all the people that claim it is otherwise all these claims on here are junk.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Questioner

[Someone here]

@Questioner what's the difference between your night time dreams and this waking experience that you are experiencing right now? 

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, Questioner said:

Do things seem to arise or do they actually arise and why?

Seems because all are just shapes. Why, i don't know. Maybe just because it's possible. 

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, Questioner said:

Which dream did you wake up from?

Study quantum mechanics and listen to Leo's series on it debunking Materialism.  But ultimately you will need to become a mystic.   Quantum mechanics shows you it, the problem is that scientists today don't want to look at the ramifications of the work of guys like Bohr, Einstein, and others.

[Questioner]

32 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Questioner what's the difference between your night time dreams and this waking experience that you are experiencing right now? 

Theoretically dreams have no basis in sensory input whereas the waking state does. More critically the possibility that I am interacting with unconscious dream characters in dreams as opposed to conscious beings like myself right now.

[Questioner]

35 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Seems because all are just shapes. Why, i don't know. Maybe just because it's possible. 

One reason things arise is because I create the things I see (such as this post).

[Questioner]

18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Study quantum mechanics and listen to Leo's series on it debunking Materialism.  But ultimately you will need to become a mystic.   Quantum mechanics shows you it, the problem is that scientists today don't want to look at the ramifications of the work of guys like Bohr, Einstein, and others.

You didn't answer the question about which dream you supposedly awoken from? The one you had last night or a different one?

[Leo Gura]

Don't waste your and our time with this nonsense.

Go do the work, or go do something else.