Why I'm Real

[Questioner]

If I am just imaginary then you should be able to stop imagining me. But I am not imaginary which is why you can't stop imagining me because you aren't imagining me. Just try to stop imagining me... You can't.

[Thought Art]

Well, I can because your not in my direct experience it’s just words. 
 

The word imaginary is often used sloppily in deeper teachings also… 

When God imagines something it’s REAL. Like, when God imagined a human experience in a finite universe. Once that’s locked in.. it’s so.

God isn’t a person. Asking another person who is in your dream to do things is silly. No one can stop imagining you. Because you are absolute. 

[Terell Kirby]

42 minutes ago, Questioner said:

But I am not imaginary 

Depends on what you call "I".

If the "I" you speak of is the thing you see every time you look in the mirror, that's certainly imaginary.

[Questioner]

6 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Well, I can because your not in my direct experience it’s just words. 
 

The word imaginary is often used sloppily in deeper teachings also… 

When God imagines something it’s REAL. Like, when God imagined a human experience in a finite universe. Once that’s locked in.. it’s so.

God isn’t a person. Asking another person who is in your dream to do things is silly. No one can stop imagining you. Because you are absolute. 

I am not the words you see but these are my real words.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Questioner

[Thought Art]

@Questioner obviously 

[Questioner]

 

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

@Questioner obviously 

Then why do you think you are imagining me or my words? These are my real words.

[Thought Art]

@Questioner Because reality is imagination. 
 

But, are you capable of having a deep conversation about the layers of imagination and that that word is used in different contexts? Doubt it.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Thought Art

[Questioner]

Just now, Thought Art said:

@Questioner Because reality is imagination. 

You're wrong. I'm not imaginary.

[Thought Art]

@Questioner Then what are you?

[Questioner]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Questioner Then what are you?

I am the one making this post. 

[VeganAwake]

44 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Depends on what you call "I".

If the "I" you speak of is the thing you see every time you look in the mirror, that's certainly imaginary.

It's not that the conditioned body and the mirror are imaginary.......it's the sense of self within the body or as the controller of the body which is imaginary. The body is completely empty actually, there isn't anyone inside of it.

The apparent individual which could get offended or hurt by someone calling it a jackass ........that's the illusion of self!

There's no one really in there!

❤ 

[RMQualtrough]

1 hour ago, Questioner said:

If I am just imaginary then you should be able to stop imagining me. But I am not imaginary which is why you can't stop imagining me because you aren't imagining me. Just try to stop imagining me... You can't.

You can stop imagining you, then you see that there never even was one, and that you don't even exist. That is awakening.

[NoSelfSelf]

If im imaginary and you tell me to stop imagining you is funny, because you ask too much of an imaginary person to do i mean in term of logic is pointless ?

[Loba]

I think you are "real" in that you are a soul, a partition, a bubble of consciousness connected to the main source that we all are - that your experiences are valid, that you of course live your own life.  But the ego, the memories and experiences that make up the story of who you are, are not real.  They are figments created to give you a sense of reality so that you can make your way through the world.

In my experiences, God made itself - but it split itself into an uncountable amount of different consciousnesses, all existing within nothing at all, but connected to the main source.  So we are all one, but we still have our own bubbles of perception.

[Dazgwny]

As far as I’m concerned I’ve barely began imagining you, never mind stopping imagining you. To me you have no form, and likely never will. Nothing more than a mere member name. Everything I possibly think about you, other than the member name you use on here, is completely and totally in my imagination. Yet even that is so strong in itself it takes some powerful deconstruction to realise, that everything I hold about what you are is purely imaginary. And if you were actually in front of me a solidified human being, other than the form itself of you, everything I think I might know of you, is still purely imaginary. Just what I’m perceiving you to be from my perspective. Go even deeper and even that form is realised to be completely imaginary, including my own, and everything else about me

[JosephKnecht]

7 hours ago, Questioner said:

I am the one making this post. 

You are the One who makes everything, not just this post. 

 

[Questioner]

13 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

You can stop imagining you, then you see that there never even was one, and that you don't even exist. That is awakening.

How can I stop imagining myself if I don't exist? This is broken logic.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Questioner

[RMQualtrough]

20 minutes ago, Questioner said:

How can I stop imagining myself if I don't exist? This is broken logic.

Your existence is fiction. Go stare at a flower and find where the you is in that. It's just not there... What is called experiencing does not need you present at all. Experiencing is also a fiction since that would mean an experience and experiencer split, when the experiencer does not exist and never did. That's the ego trick.

Reality is not painted with a substance plus the phenomena it takes the form of. Mentally pull the brush tip across blank white and have it paint the sound of a violin directly onto the page. No middle-man. The sound of the violin is what is. Not consciousness not you not God.

Edited August 15, 2022 by RMQualtrough

[Questioner]

6 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:

Your existence is fiction. Go stare at a flower and find where the you is in that. It's just not there... What is called experiencing does not need you present at all. Experiencing is also a fiction since that would mean an experience and experiencer split, when the experiencer does not exist and never did. That's the ego trick.

Reality is not painted with a substance plus the phenomena it takes the form of. Mentally pull the brush tip across blank white and have it paint the sound of a violin directly onto the page. No middle-man. The sound of the violin is what is. Not consciousness not you not God.

And what is conscious of this?

[RMQualtrough]

12 minutes ago, Questioner said:

And what is conscious of this?

Nothing... This is the illusion of the ego and the falsehood of human interpretations of reality, the belief that there must be something "conscious of" the phenomena, and that it cannot exist in standalone fashion in absence of you, consciousness, God, or any other idea like that...

Flowers don't need you present looking at them for them to appear. If reality expresses a flower, the image of it is what is expressed. Not the image of the flower and a you watching the image.

I think this is probably genuine enlightenment, and death.