Conscious Holistic Politics. Is it possible? Thank you.

[Panteranegra]

What do you think about creative solutions to politics taking a holistic approach?

Thank you. 

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by Panteranegra

[Carl-Richard]

We're already doing that in sectors such as public health, at least in my country. The biopsychosocial model is becoming more and more prevalent, i.e. how factors like biology, psychology and socioeconomics all impact health, which is a holistic model. For example. you have reforms like Samhandlingsreformen from 2009 which focuses on bettering coordination between different health services, preventative approaches, challenges associated with changes in demographics etc.

Other examples are emerging fields, like clinical health psychology, which addresses the connection between physical disorders and mental health, and community psychology, which deals with the connection between social challenges (marginalization etc.) and mental health. There is also a greater focus on patient participation in general as well as in more traditional healthcare, which challenges the paternalistic doctor-patient dynamic.

These are mostly examples of Green systems thinking and context awareness, which have aspiring holistic features to them. To get to Tier 2, we need more radical proposals which aim to change the very structure of society, like the kind Game B talks about: fostering a post-rivalrous society where we can genuinely recognize our shared existence as humans, deep ecology where we also include nature into the equation, and of course construct updated psychotechnologies (and other technologies) for addressing the meaning crisis (reclaiming the healthy essence of religion and spirituality) and the public health crisis (which of course both overlap as mentioned in the beginning).

[Carl-Richard]

31 minutes ago, JoeVolcano said:

You can't be conscious and still want to govern everything. Politics are an artifact of an unconscious world.

Is consciousness chaos?

[Oeaohoo]

8 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Is consciousness chaos?

Mr. Volcano has a very negative view of all social, worldly or even human ambitions. That is why he often erupts, laughing demonically as smoke pours out of his mouth and his lava pours down into local human settlements, dissolving all of the pathetic monuments they have erected to their petty ambitions!

Joking aside, it is interesting how followers of a spiritual teacher often serve to inflate the teacher’s negative aspects, as I see a subtler form of the same nihilism in Leo’s teachings. It is a bit like the tendency towards “naive skepticism” you described a while back, in which advanced spiritual truths are misapplied to deny more fundamental, if less significant, realities.

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, Oeaohoo said:

It is a bit like the tendency towards “naive skepticism” you described a while back, in which advanced spiritual truths are misapplied to deny more fundamental, if less significant, realities.

Yup. It's a form of spiritual bypassing (hiding behind spirituality, using it reductively). Naive skepticism is a more general concept which can describe certain kinds of spiritual bypassing, but also more ordinary ways of thinking.