If you were very conscious what would a therapist diagnose you with?

[Devin]

1 hour ago, amanen said:

I can't imagine a positive response to telling a therapist that you are God and that everything is your dream, including the therapist.

I don't think the conversation would come to that.

[BlessedLion]

On 8/15/2022 at 8:25 AM, Devin said:

@Gesundheit2 @Carl-Richard

Do you think the big names like Jesus, Buddha, Zen Masters, etc... were very conscious? If so, you don't think normal therapists would have thought something wrong with them with one session of knowing them? I agree if the therapist was very conscious they would think them highly functioning but most therapists aren't. If they were to ask them about their lives I think the average therapist would attribute some problems, you don't?

If a therapist sat in a room with Jesus or the Buddha within minutes they’d be begging them for guidance and help

[Razard86]

4 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Cough......I don't know about that one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_health_of_Jesus#:~:text=The Gospel of Mark reports,possessed by demons%2C or insane.

I really feel like you guys are averse to evidence....click the link and be informed. 

[Devin]

1 hour ago, BlessedLion said:

If a therapist sat in a room with Jesus or the Buddha within minutes they’d be begging them for guidance and help

If they didn't know they were Jesus or Buddha?

[Leo Gura]

Bad for business

[Breakingthewall]

if you are very conscious, you are happy, you have no problems with anyone or anything, no negative thoughts, just openness, love, creativity, courage... the therapist would tell you: I want to be like you

[puporing]

Depends on the therapist. Some are extremely corrupt and will make things up to keep you as their client. But if you're very conscious you would see right through that bullshit and leave.

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

if you are very conscious, you are happy, you have no problems with anyone or anything, no negative thoughts, just openness, love, creativity, courage... the therapist would tell you: I want to be like you

I think the creativity and courage aspects might go so far that they think there's a problem. And if they ask if you ever get unhappy or negative and you say never, I don't think they'd believe you

[puporing]

Maybe if you were very conscious and more so than your therapist... you would be paying someone to lift them out of areas they are not conscious of while totally accepting them as they are, or just leave. So the therapist may not even suspect anything weird going on but think you're just a very nice person they can talk to that gets them (you become their therapist while acting as a "patient"  ).

Edited August 20, 2022 by puporing

[BuddhistLover]

That's right, the therapists don't actually solve your problems, they just want you to keep coming back to talk about it. I find that the best therapy is:

1. Journaling

2.Shamamic Breathing

3.Meditation

4.Guitars

[puporing]

20 minutes ago, BuddhistLover said:

That's right, the therapists don't actually solve your problems, they just want you to keep coming back to talk about it. I find that the best therapy is:

1. Journaling

2.Shamamic Breathing

3.Meditation

4.Guitars

The right one can help a great deal and "move mountains" (when they act from selflessness). But like most people it's hard to keep this up and not let your own personal agenda get in the way.

The other options are also good tools. 

Edited August 20, 2022 by puporing

[gettoefl]

therapy is paying someone to converse with you and give you sensitive and informed feedback, and perhaps about very specialised matters

if you're equally conscious it's just a normal conversation as with a friend

if you're more conscious, the therapist will benefit but it is you who are seeking the conversation not them

[puporing]

2 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

if you're more conscious, the therapist will benefit but it is you who are seeking the conversation not them

 You don't know this, because they won't admit to it directly.

I've had experiences where the therapists were desperately trying to hold on while I was breaking the thing off. This might not happen often but it can. But you also have to be conscious enough to see this subtle dynamic happening.

[integral]

11 hours ago, BuddhistLover said:

That's right, the therapists don't actually solve your problems, they just want you to keep coming back to talk about it. I find that the best therapy is:

1. Journaling

2.Shamamic Breathing

3.Meditation

4.Guitars

5. Exercise, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Swimming, Sports...

6. Playing outdoors all day for a month, PLAY PLAY PLAY PLAY

 

Edited August 20, 2022 by integral

[gettoefl]

32 minutes ago, puporing said:

 You don't know this, because they won't admit to it directly.

I've had experiences where the therapists were desperately trying to hold on while I was breaking the thing off. This might not happen often but it can. But you also have to be conscious enough to see this subtle dynamic happening.

alas what they do is they seize the credit for the high level of engagement, this is an example of my fine work ... and therapists don't like to lose their finest creations and will do all they can to keep them ... they love being god in other words 

[BuddhistLover]

@puporing It really is hard to keep those things up, that's why therapy is hard, and why therapists make so much money. It's hard to do it on your own. 

[Devin]

@Breakingthewall @Gesundheit2 @Carl-Richard @kag101 

I agree with you all now but I'm not sure from the same line of thinking. I think there's a level of consciousness above Jesus/Buddha level(their perceived level) where you partake in normal life like a high functioning individual, not necessarily living by societies ideals, but like you partake like a kid does with imagination/play, I don't even think they would be teachers or Zen masters necessarily

Edited September 17, 2022 by Devin