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Wouter

Occult "knowledge" And Parents

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Hi,

Getting enlightened is getting a priority in my life. But I hide it for my parents and the people I know. I do as if I meditate to become relaxter etc, but the real reason is that I want to discover the truth. I am afraid that when I tell people, they will automatically think about sects and dogma, so I never tell anyone about this deep aspiration. Sometimes I do like "in the east they think you don't know who you are", but almost noone really picks in on it. I feel fragmented. I don't only feel dishonest and hiding, also sometimes when I do a exercise wich can seam silly to someone else, like drawing a line between an object and what I perceive as myself, I find myself being afraid to "get caught" by  someone else, like my parents, my sister etc. Should I tell other people about enlightenment? Any other advice?

 

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Well I'm a "seeker" too, like you, but I can spot your issue I think. You are putting so much emphasis on enlightenment, that not only does it cause you to act in this awkward way with regard to others, but it would put a massing dam in the way of you ever achieving Enlightenment in the first place. You see, we pretty much have to forget the whole "concept" of enlightenment before it's ever possible. Let all concepts drop away.

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You're conducting an investigation on the nature of reality. People around you do not need to understand. You dont need to hide, but you also dont need to preach it.

I think ita good you dont talk about it to others, but if someone is interested or wonders what you're doing - you can explain. Their interpretation of you and what you're doing is their problem, not yours.

What you have is the highest aspiration anyone can have - to find the true nature of reality. Seek and you shall find, brother. 

Tldr: Care less what others think.

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Mind over Matter, Awareness over Mind

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@Neo I don't understand what you mean well enough, can you explain a bit further?

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@Wouter

What I would do is, observe the fear of being judged & seeming unusual to other people and let that observation, increase awareness.

In that very moment you get a sensation dont you, that sends you a message, probably something like " Oh what if they think I am weird" right? And "what if they don't approve of it, ect.

So you feel inauthentic and feel like you are hiding. 

Be awareness of this only and do not muddy the water of this, let it come, be aware of this fear of Disapproval of other people, which many have.

How long are you going to buy into this paradigm of giving others so much power over you, outside of the thinking about it, it doesn't matter what others say or think about  you.

Only matters to the conditioned mind, thought.

You are not this, you are something far greater, to find your way back home is what is important, not what other people think about it, you are on your own path to find truth, to live in accordance to truth, 

Others are on there own path, what they think only comes from ignorance.

You find truth from observation of mind and behavior of yourself, to really see what's going on.

What is the truth outside of limited thinking, and truth will emerge.

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@Callum A

5 minutes ago, Callum A said:

@Wouter

 

In that very moment you get a sensation dont you, that sends you a message, probably something like " Oh what if they think I am weird" right? And "what if they don't approve of it, ect.

So you feel inauthentic and feel like you are hiding. 

That is not exactly what I meant. I am in for bigger bthings than approval (at least that's what I tell myself). I rather meant a (subtle) sense of disconnectedness from the people close to me, because I even "can't" talk with them about my ultimate aspirations for life.

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@WouterWe are in a dream right now, a dream of separateness, waking up, let that be your focus, What you are is right now, if you see it as a big aspiration forever, you will never come to truth.

the disconnectedness comes from thinking, comes from thinking about other, when we think about other we separate ourself from Other. Because we are seeing other from ego.

And of course I don't know your situation, and I do apologise if I am miss interpreting the reality of your situation, maybe it's best you enquire into that yourself to see exactly why you feel a certain way in regards to what we are talking about, your family, your friends, and what they would think? not knowing whether to tell them or not.  Its best you try to be as honest with yourself as you can.

enquiry is the key to the door to the light.

 

 

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