Which Spiral Stage would you put Trans-exclusionary radical feminists on?

[mr_engineer]

Blue or Green? 

A part of me thinks that they just hate men. And they exclude trans-women from the feminist conversation cuz they're biological men. 

[Yarco]

60% orange / 40% green.

They're focused on equality, inclusion, human rights on the green side. But they take a stage orange scientific approach and use the traditional understanding of chromosomes as the main indicator of gender and/or just conflate biological sex = gender. Their exclusion of trans people comes from a place of love for assigned-female-at-birth women and desire to protect them, moreso than hatred for the other.

0% blue. It's not about morality, it's about definitions. TERFs don't oppose trans people for the same reasons a Christian does.

Edited August 4, 2022 by Yarco

[Ulax]

1 hour ago, Yarco said:

60% orange / 40% green.

They're focused on equality, inclusion, human rights on the green side. But they take a stage orange scientific approach and use the traditional understanding of chromosomes as the main indicator of gender and/or just conflate biological sex = gender. Their exclusion of trans people comes from a place of love for assigned-female-at-birth women and desire to protect them, moreso than hatred for the other.

0% blue. It's not about morality, it's about definitions. TERFs don't oppose trans people for the same reasons a Christian does.

I agree with why they are orange and green. However, I think there is also a lot of blue, as they moralise a lot.

[Raze]

I think they, along with radical trans activists, are mostly stage red/blue people who adopt stage green ideas and frameworks and turn it ideological and toxic.

[Stovo]

Radical feminists can be in many stages really, need to know more about their other traits

[Danioover9000]

40% orange, 30% blue, 20% green, 5% red, 2% purple, 1% beige, roughly 1% yellow, and decimal % to teal and coral, if they manage their quarrels a bit. All depends on their stage, cognitive and moral development, ego development, personality typing, life experiences and other lines of development.

Edited August 5, 2022 by Danioover9000

[Bojan V]

@Raze

23 hours ago, Raze said:

I think they, along with radical trans activists, are mostly stage red/blue people who adopt stage green ideas and frameworks and turn it ideological and toxic.

There is nobody more ideological and toxic then straight people.

[Carl-Richard]

TERFs = Green boomers

Trans activists = Green zoomers

That is all the analysis we need ?

[Tyler Robinson]

@Carl-Richard bitch you forgot - zoomers gonna zoom 

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Tyler Robinson

[Tyler Robinson]

11 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

TERFs = Green boomers

Trans activists = Green zoomers

That is all the analysis we need ?

And another one - boomers gonna boom. 

 

[Carl-Richard]

8 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

@Carl-Richard bitch you forgot - zoomers gonna zoom 

Greeners gonna include  The boomers included women and got fixated on that, so they viciously attack any threats to that. The zoomers included trans people instead, so of course they'll clash. Perfect example of how T1 inclusion is fake (and gay)

[Tyler Robinson]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Greeners gonna include  The boomers included women and got fixated on that, so they viciously attack any threats to that. The zoomers included trans people instead, so of course they'll clash.

Right now you're the greenest ever. Look at you.  your name, member status and your profile Pic lol. All green. Seems like you're dressed to kill the blue out of people. 

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Tyler Robinson said:

Right now you're the greenest ever. Look at you.  your name, member status and your profile Pic lol. All green. Seems like you're dressed to kill the blue out of people. 

Kill em with Red, love em to death, whatever it takes ?

[Yog]

On 8/4/2022 at 8:34 AM, mr_engineer said:

Blue or Green? 

A part of me thinks that they just hate men. And they exclude trans-women from the feminist conversation cuz they're biological men. 

It can also be a shadow of a person in an individualistic stage. At stage orange, women become more independent and self-centered,if it happens that males around them are denying this, they will form a group shadow around men. Shadows work best when they are asociated with groups and that goes across stages.

Generally, by the looks of it, most feminists start at orange as a movement, the movement may be based on orange values, but this does not mean that you wont find stage blue transitioners, red, green, blue, or god damn, even a beige in it. At blue, everyone is really preoccupied with the collective of the nation, religion, race, or the "greater than us" group ideology of choice, so much that feminism as a splinter group in that unified blue collective will not be allowed at best, and won't be even perceived as an idea at worst. While red has too little experience working with groups and is way too individualistic and contrarian to organize and hold a stable group, especially when it comes to females. Its a power game, and it so happens that males are more powerful, so they are the ones forming up the ganks and warbands, females help and support them and the ones that are not your females are "enslaved" in the manner of the time. Yes, women might rebel, but they would be seen just as that, as rebels, not feminists or women's rights (wtf is this) activists.

It makes sense to me that feminism as a solid thing in a stage can only be started at orange and progress into green. With, or without all the shadows. But still able to attract people from other stages, since we live in an interconnected age.

[Yog]

On 8/6/2022 at 4:16 AM, Carl-Richard said:

TERFs = Green boomers

Trans activists = Green zoomers

That is all the analysis we need ?

That's a fine distinction good sir, I am keeping it

Edited August 7, 2022 by Yog

[Oppositionless]

edited because surface level Green but fundamentallism is very Blue. people always have some of every stage in them, "us" vs"them" going back to the very beginning

Edited August 7, 2022 by Oppositionless