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[Danioover9000]

@KH2

3 hours ago, KH2 said:

Unless you're making at least 10k a month, by NOT working a regular job, but by doing some type of enterprenourial endevour while having some passive income streams, then shut up, because you don't know shit about shit. Most people here are not in that situation, I can say that pretty confidently.

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   Dude! That guy's username like had k and h and a string of letters and numbers, I just shorten as Kid#guy, I couldn't remember it all. He'll be Doomstick#Guy next time okay?

[zurew]

2 hours ago, KH2 said:

Which is the goal of everyone, regardless of the kind of business they run. Affiliate marketing, copywriting/any type of freelancing, amazon dropshipping etc. are ALSO activities that provide value

Nope, most of those things are not unique and don't provide massive value, and most of those things are not necessarily scalable. If its for a starting point where you want to earn some capital to be able to start your business later, thats fine , but i would be curious how many people get rich from affiliate marketing or dropshipping.

Also this "passive income" idea is misleading a lot of people. Ohh how good is that i don't have to do shit and i can earn a lot of money. But in reality you either have to put in a ton of work first and then you can enjoy some level of passive income but even then you have to put in time and money to maintain that because it will quickly run its course, because almost all the passive income markets are competitive asf.

For instance, some people might say, youtube is good for passive income. You put in 2-3-4 years of work and then you can relax and don't have to do shit. But thats not true, even if you manage to get a high subscribe number, you have to upload some content, because channels that are inactive will get behind channels that are uploading 1 or multiple videos a day.

 

2 hours ago, KH2 said:

You can't get money from the thin air, obviously, you have to provide something, make someone'e life easier.

You can exploit someone or a business and get loads of money. With marketing you can make people believe that you provide something that you actually not, and then you can make people addicted to your product / service, and  then voila you can have a toxic business where you don't really offer any value, but earn a lot of money.

2 hours ago, KH2 said:

You're just regurgitating general basic information from life purpose course and other source, while gaving very shallow understanding of my perspective. Life is fundamentally competition.

Nope, my point was that you can choose if you want to have a toxic business or a business where you actually provide some underlying value and help people and not fucking them over.

2 hours ago, KH2 said:

And also, like I've said, you're always competing against other people, whether you realize it or not. In fact, the whole idea of "finding a niche", is that you compete less, and thus can dominate that niche. That's what Leo, and many others have done. But just because you are in a field with minimal competition, doesn't nean there isn't any.

I didn't say that competition is inherently bad/worng. The wrong part comes, when you are willing to do anything to take over including (directly fucking over other people and businesses) - like bleeding out smaller businesses, talking shit about them make them look bad, pressuring them to quit etc

2 hours ago, KH2 said:

That idea in and of itself is exploitative, and it's stepping on other people's heads. Someone has to be a brokie, and someone has to work 9-5 (most people) - unless robots and A.I. take over.

Yes, you could say that there is a built in exploitative nature in the capitalist system, but as a business man or a Ceo you can have a direct impact on how much you exploit your workers and how much want you to give back. As i said, you can build a toxic business, a toxic environment, where you take almost everything and don't give back anything or you can have a healthier and more sustainable relationship with your workers. 

You can also have a direct impact on what kind of business you want to have. You can have a business where you don't really offer any value and all your value comes from marketing but there isn't anything there that could be tangible and and you make people addicted to your service/item and fuck them over, Or you can offer value that directly helps people in a positive way, where they don't get fucked over but the opposite their life becomes better.

Its not whether you exploit or not, its about how much you exploit and how much you give back.

You can give back value through paying your workers more money and through your item/service (namely how much you help people who use your item/service)

Edited August 11, 2022 by zurew

[Danioover9000]

@zurew

4 hours ago, zurew said:

There is a big difference between exploiting someone else's work compared to trying to create value yourself.  If your success directly relies on fucking over other people, then you should reconsider your methods. You can carve a niche without the need to step on others heads.

For instance, you don't have to use your marketing to talk shit about other companies, you can focus on your own product/service and market that without the need to shittalk or to bring down other companies.Or If you have a bigger company you don't have to bleed out smaller companies by bringing your prices down for long periods of time. 

Leo's business plan was relying on his message, which is to create and provide massive value. He wasn't fixated on this: "How could i fuck over other companies or people in order to become successful? Your relationship with all other companies and people don't always have to be rivalrous.

 

So if you have 2 principles:

1. I have to fuck over other people in order to become successful
2. I have to focus my time, energy, and all my creativity to provide massive value

The decisions that you will make down the line will be massively different  and it will be depended on which principle you will use.

   Can you give an example, of a small business or company, that markets, provides services/values to customers, in a more socialistic business modal than capitalistic modal, without at all fucking over and manipulating businesses in similar or exactly the same niche?

[zurew]

3 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

Can you give an example, of a small business or company, that markets, provides services/values to customers, in a more socialistic business modal than capitalistic modal, without at all fucking over and manipulating businesses in similar or exactly the same niche?

I wasn't talking about using a socialist structure, i was pointing to the fact, that you can use the capitalist framework and still give more back, than what you take. 

1 hour ago, zurew said:

Yes, you could say that there is a built in exploitative nature in the capitalist system, but as a business man or a Ceo you can have a direct impact on how much you exploit your workers and how much want you to give back. As i said, you can build a toxic business, a toxic environment, where you take almost everything and don't give back anything or you can have a healthier and more sustainable relationship with your workers. 

You can also have a direct impact on what kind of business you want to have. You can have a business where you don't really offer any value and all your value comes from marketing but there isn't anything there that could be tangible and and you make people addicted to your service/item and fuck them over, Or you can offer value that directly helps people in a positive way, where they don't get fucked over but the opposite their life becomes better.

Its not whether you exploit or not, its about how much you exploit and how much you give back.

You can give back value through paying your workers more money and through your item/service (namely how much you help people who use your item/service)

 

 

[Danioover9000]

@zurew

2 hours ago, zurew said:

I wasn't talking about using a socialist structure, i was pointing to the fact, that you can use the capitalist framework and still give more back, than what you take. 

 

 

   I know that, I'm just curious of what alternative businesses you had in mind that would have proposed as a counter to that user's post of a capitalistic business and an alternative to whatever Andrew Tate would be offering. I assumed it would have been a business that is less capitalistic, and more socialistic framework? a business that's roughly 50/50 social and capitalistic? please give me an example to help me understand your vision.

[hyruga]

I love Andrew Tate. He gives the best advises! 

 

[BlessedLion]

10 hours ago, Raptorsin7 said:

@BlessedLion Are you financially self sufficient to the point where you can come and go in every country whenever you please?

If not then you have something to learn from him. So set aside your brilliant intuition about people for a few moments and learn something. Because he is likely capable of doing things you cannot.

Ah man you gonna make me flex? Fuck, I guess I gotta…

 

I was making 15K/Mo working 3 hours a day for 5 years, starting at age 24. Fully remote job. Now I’m 29 and retired, money is not an issue for me. I’ve traveled the WHOLE world multiple times over and slept with models, over 100 women. You know what I learned from that? That while it was fun, it was empty, Soulless, now I live a life of a monk basically and all I do is meditate and live in nature. 
 

My life goal is to teach meditation and healing, which pays much less but is fulfilling. Hopefully you get there one day, luckily I was blessed to win early in life and to see that there is more to it. So go, make that money, fuck the women and come to the same conclusion that I did, or chase your tail for your whole life   
 

Unfortunately most people are so unconscious and lame that they just chase that shit their whole life. Which, sounds like might be you…

 

peace

[zurew]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

please give me an example to help me understand your vision.

Just to be clear, I assumed when @KH2  was talking about being exploitative, he was talking more than just the basic exploitation that occurs under a capitalist system, which is that there needs to be people who gets less compared to a Ceo. So i wasn't specifically attacking Andew Tate or the idea of a capitalist business, but i was attacking the idea, that you have to be more expolitative than the necessary exploitation that occurs between a Ceo and his/her workers. Looking back, It seems that KH2 wasn't talking about more than the basic exploitation, so i agree with him on that one.

 

That being said, if we stay under a capitalist framework i can give you 2 different examples to differentiate between a low conscious business, and a conscious business.

Low consciousness business would be mcdonald's, where the whole business relies on getting you hooked on their unhealthy food and items. So what you get for your money is addiction, and a fucked up health, and lack of control. So basically Mcdonald's earning a lot of money by fucking up people's lives.

Conscious business would be actualized.org, where there is a vision to provide massive value to people and to help them practically as well. Firstly, you get 100s of hours of content for free, without the need to pay anything. That mechanism don't automatically means that it is a conscious business, but it shows ,that actualized.org not only fixated and optimized just only on money. If we talk about the LP course, then what you can see is that, you get something that you can use to seriously improve your life with, so you get real value for your money, and you don't get addicted to anything and your life don't get fucked over by any item or service. This forum can also provide massive value to some people, especially if they manage to get direct answers to their specific problems and questions and this is free as well. 

But basically, the line between a conscious vs low conscious business is this: A low conscious business will optimise everything to gain more power and more money, without giving a single fuck about anything else. A conscious business will be a business that is built around the idea of providing massive value(not just what the market currently thinks as valuable but actual value that improves people's life massively and make society greater).

Now, does that mean that a low conscious business that opitmise everything to gain money can't provide massive value to people or incapable to make society better? No, doesn't mean that. It means, that when it comes to making business decisions  - if according to the current market, the most easy and most scalable way to earn money and to gain more power is by fucking people over and getting them addicted, then a low conscious business will do that and adapt to it. Opposite to that, a high conscious business will first try to think about an idea or product or service that can provide massive value to people, and just after that would start thinking about how could that be made profitable to the business owner as well (without fucking over other people, or doing it with as little damage as possible). A high conscious business won't intentionally fuck over other people just to earn more money.

Edited August 11, 2022 by zurew

[BlessedLion]

10 hours ago, Loba said:

@Raptorsin7 Yeah but he enjoys his life, is happy and finds nice women without exploiting them.  I mean, he is doing better than 99 percent of the people here and doesn't rely on mommy-daddy funds, he does it himself.

Thank you @Loba ❤️? You understand 

[Raptorsin7]

@BlessedLion Good for you. You have an incredible sense of perception if you think that my goal in life is to chase money and woman.

Keep up the meditation and nature living, and spend time less being reactive to internet figures trying to help young men become financially self sufficient.

 

[BlessedLion]

10 hours ago, Raptorsin7 said:

Yeah i'm sure he's a real Buddha living it up. I'm very envious.

Yesterday I spent 6 hours melting into the bliss of God on the beach… 

[Raptorsin7]

Just now, BlessedLion said:

Yesterday I spent 6 hours melting into the bliss of God on the beach… 

Good for you. How many needles did it take up your ass to feel the bliss.

 

[zurew]

@BlessedLion Can I ask, what kind of work you did?

[BlessedLion]

9 hours ago, puporing said:

Amen to that. Life can get really hard when just figuring out survival.

“Life is not sunshine and Rainbow, Survival is tough” 

 

all these victim mindsets…. I think life is sunshine and rainbows

 

@Loba it’s tough to read through this, I can sense your genuine wisdom and care and this kid who must be no older than 18, if he is, I’m really worried for him, is just totally blind and close minded. I’m also outta here, I’ve got Love to merge with ✌️
 

@Raptorsin7

Honestly brother, from my heart, I’m speaking to the deeper part of you now, I hope that you quickly learn that role models like Andrew Tate are toxic and ultimately wounded victims themselves who are using and exploiting people like you. I wouldn’t be surprised if he laughs at his followers behind their backs. I hope you quickly learn this is not the path to what you seek. 

[Raptorsin7]

3 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

“Life is not sunshine and Rainbow, Survival is tough” 

 

all these victim mindsets…. I think life is sunshine and rainbows

 

@Loba it’s tough to read through this, I can sense your genuine wisdom and care and this kid who must be no older than 18, if he is, I’m really worried for him, is just totally blind and close minded. I’m also outta here, I’ve got Love to merge with ✌️
 

@Raptorsin7

Honestly brother, from my heart, I’m speaking to the deeper part of you now, I hope that you quickly learn that role models like Andrew Tate are toxic and ultimately wounded victims themselves who are using and exploiting people like you. I wouldn’t be surprised if he laughs at his followers behind their backs. I hope you quickly learn this is not the path to what you seek. 

. Just because a person is wounded and toxic, doesn't mean you can't learn valuable things from them.

Do you even know what HU is? You said it yourself money is no issue for you. Why not just check it out yourself.

Have fun merging with god. Don't forget your needles and drug supply though (:

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by Raptorsin7

[puporing]

1 hour ago, KH2 said:

@BlessedLion Why all you spiritual/psychadelic folk need to talk about how happy you are/how merged with God you are all the time? Honestly, who gives a fuck?

Also, gotta love that patronizing, fake empathy/sympathy.

 

Haha, it's certainly not the "highest" one can reach if one cannot even empathize with the relative struggles of finite beings and different stages of development.

Edited August 11, 2022 by puporing

[Carl-Richard]

49 minutes ago, JoeVolcano said:

What kind of work makes that kind of money...?

Shipping Colombian products to Europe.

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, JoeVolcano said:

Ahhhhhhh...

 

Coffee! 

Close.

[Carl-Richard]

20 minutes ago, JoeVolcano said:

But no cigars? 

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[BlessedLion]

It’s not fake empathy, I actually feel bad and hope that you don’t spend too much time on this Hustle University. But you’re right, I didn’t look into it or research, I just took a look at Tates videos for like 10 minutes and came to a conclusion based on his energy. So maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am. 
 

Regarding the needles, funny joke, but I don’t use any drugs or psychedelics. My “drug” is that I spend 6-8 hours a day in silent contemplation and it pays off. 
 

Lastly, I read back my messages and realized that I do sound quite smug and egotistical with the whole merging into God thing, but I don’t know how else to explain it. Superiority complex is something I’m working on. I don’t mean to lessen any of your struggles or pain. 
 

For those asking about how I made that money, I worked in Tech. Trust me, it’s so much better to do spirituality and find your passion than make a bunch of money online. Anyway, love you all.