How should we integrate our devil in our day to day life?

[Jannes]

So if we would act completely unselfish we couldn’t even manifest ourself in reality but if we only act selfish we might be really “successful“ be we would have rotten souls and no love. We have to find a compromise. Where is that compromise and how do you find it?  

I think many philosopher don’t get the necessity for the devil. As if you just had the choice to always act unselfish and so if you do act in a selfish way then that’s on you, you are a terrible person! Instead of seeing that the person was just acting out of fear. And in not acknowledging that we are very limited many fall into various traps when it comes to ethical behaviour. They overestimate their capacity to act good and surpress their devilish emotions. But now they do even more damage because they act out their devil in an unconscious way. And because they act better then they can handle they need validation from others. It’s not genuine. So I feel like what philosopher of ethic and also what society is teaching is to act "nice“ but that’s not authentic because it lacks the devil. 

My conclusion so far is that you should only act as good as you can be. And that means listening to your authentic feelings. Your rational mind (also rational ethic) won’t help you with that because you can justify every behaviour rationally. You should be encouraged to put a lot of effort into yourself to satisfy your own needs. Only from that place can you genuinely help others and won’t act as devilish because you don’t need anything from others. And ethical behaviour shouldn’t be taught as something you do for others but as something you do for yourself, for your own soul. Only that is genuine. 
 

What are your thoughts on that?

Also how far can you push it with spirituality?

Edited July 27, 2022 by Jannes

[Razard86]

The Devil= Finitude.

God =Infinity.

The only way to give up all devilry is to be Infinite. The moment God created Separation the devil was born. So the only reason the Devil exists is because of limits, limits create fear, and as a result Devilish behavior emerges. Because God is infinite finitude must exist as well as infinity means everything. So one of the core examples you learn is that life is both good and evil. But the reason that evil doesn't ultimately exist is because there is only one self which is God. Evil is to bring harm against others intentionally but if there are no others....then there is no evil. But let's get away from this and speak from the world perspective.

Recognize that both evil and good are the same thing. Recognize that everything is one and everything is a mirror. So if this is a case this means life is just a perspective and whatever you believe is true will be true for you. So the correct answer is, whatever is true for you. You have to find what brings you happiness and that will differ from person to person. Some want a chaotic life, some want a simple life. Some love music, some love math.

Everyone both in the past and present are just examples of different lifestyles and perspectives that you could ultimately become. So pick a person whose perspective most resonates with your own, and use them as a foundation to how you build your life and as you come into your own you will change, grow, and figure out what is valuable to you.

If I could give an answer is the key is to find balance. Whenever we are in excess in either area we suffer the kick back. Think of life like a rubberband. When both sides have equal force then it is centered. But if you pull too hard in either direction it give you a kick back. All of life teaches you two things. Face fears/limits, and stay balanced. If you don't grow you suffer being limited and all that comes with that. If you become unbalanced you suffer the consequences with that. So be balanced, and seek to expand all limits/fears as best you can.

The End....or is it? 

[Jannes]

On 27.7.2022 at 6:58 PM, Razard86 said:

You have to find what brings you happiness and that will differ from person to person. Some want a chaotic life, some want a simple life. Some love music, some love math.

Everyone both in the past and present are just examples of different lifestyles and perspectives that you could ultimately become. So pick a person whose perspective most resonates with your own, and use them as a foundation to how you build your life and as you come into your own you will change, grow, and figure out what is valuable to you.

Yeah I think the best thing is to focus on yourself. If you are in love with life and passionate about what you do, you will provide value automatically.  

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If I could give an answer is the key is to find balance. Whenever we are in excess in either area we suffer the kick back.

Balance between what? Career and free time, Good and Evil, practical and spiritual? 

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Think of life like a rubberband. When both sides have equal force then it is centered. But if you pull too hard in either direction it give you a kick back. All of life teaches you two things. Face fears/limits, and stay balanced. If you don't grow you suffer being limited and all that comes with that. If you become unbalanced you suffer the consequences with that. So be balanced, and seek to expand all limits/fears as best you can.

The End....or is it? 

I am really looking at the ethical side of this.  
The more we act out our devil the easier survival becomes right ? Getting money, sex, status, … is all easier if you are a devil. But you need at least a bit of devil because you want to survive. If you surpress these things because you want to act like a saint then you will act your devil out in unconscious ways which is far worse. So what is a good middle ground between devil and saint and how do you find it ?