Can you activate DMT in your brain sober?

[Richard Purdy]

Somebody on this forum asked;

“Could you ever develop shamanic breathing to be as strong as a mushroom trip?” and Leo said:

“There is no substitute for the underlying chemistry. Mushrooms are crazy powerful. If you were able to get that effect sober you would be classified as insane.”

This makes sense for all psychedelics. However for DMT, since that’s already in our brains, can’t you get the DMT effect while sober? I’ve seen some YouTubers do some breathing exercises to naturally release it. Or is the psychedelic different from what’s in your brain?

 

In a dream I took DMT and tripped a few months ago. It was a bad trip. Last night in meditation, I replicated everything I felt in the trip (Felt myself going through tunnels, feeling the feeling you get during come up) It really felt like I was experiencing DMT again. I felt the waves of traveling and the same beating. I resurfaced some traumas from that trip too. Feeling the traumas from that trip in a sober state. It felt like the real thing.

Here's my ultimate question:

When you feel out the same trauma that came up during a DMT trip in sober state, can DMT resurface in your brain? Or is it just my imagination, my thoughts?

Edited July 14, 2022 by Richard Purdy

[puporing]

I don't have a lot of experience with it yet so take this with what you will.

I did feel something in my head even a few days after a trip. This also coincided with me feeling the solipsistic state in "sober" state and went on for a few days. Is it all in my head? ? Who the hell knows. But the sensation was definitely not there before I ever touched 5-meo.

Edited July 14, 2022 by puporing

[axiom]

Yes, holotropic breathing (2+ Hours duration) is comparable to a 3G mushroom trip. For real. Try it.

[billiesimon]

3 minutes ago, axiom said:

Yes, holotropic breathing (2+ Hours duration) is comparable to a 3G mushroom trip. For real. Try it.

2+ hours?!? That's insane. The most I achieved was 30 mins and I was winded. How can one reach 2 hours?

[Thought Art]

Shamanic breathing and some kundalini or Qigong breathwork has created 5meo like experiences for me

[Richard Purdy]

@Thought Art @axiom  You ever feel after breathing you have to give yourself some time to settle down? Or do you get up just go about your day

[axiom]

3 hours ago, Richard Purdy said:

@Thought Art @axiom  You ever feel after breathing you have to give yourself some time to settle down? Or do you get up just go about your day

Legs are pretty wobbly. Definitely need a little time (30-45 mins, say) to come around and decompress. 

I should state I’ve only ever had one holotropic breathing guided session. Music was played, which I suspect heightens the experience. Two hours was actually quite easy - it’s only the first 20 to 30 mins that feels a bit laborious - after you get past that point you relax into the rhythm of things. 

The experience was far more powerful than I expected it to be, and I ended the session convinced that breathwork can allow you to reach any of the states more typically realised through imbibement of even the most powerful psychedelic.

DMT has been found in relatively high concentrations in the lungs (compared to other tissues / organs) so that may explain the efficacy of this method. 

Edited July 15, 2022 by axiom

[Recursoinominado]

Well, once i had a mystical experience very much like a DMT trip with small dose of bad weed and a hatha yoga basic practice.

I had a mild god realization in a public place, I saw oneness clearly pulling the strings and my vision got filled with mandalas and geometric patterns, just like some DMT trip I had before.

[something_else]

18 hours ago, Richard Purdy said:

@Thought Art @axiom  You ever feel after breathing you have to give yourself some time to settle down? Or do you get up just go about your day

Shamanic breathing just makes me hungry as a motherfucker.

Like food has never tasted so good as it does after 30 mins of that shit.

I have no idea if this is a unique to me experience or not but it's all I remember from doing it a bunch of times a few years back 

[Razard86]

I came across this a while back. I hope it helps. 

 

[Thought Art]

@Razard86 good ol’ mantak