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Jordan peterson message to muslims is a big projection

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13 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

   Funnily enough, while there are many differences, there are some similarities to Leo's recent video on the evolution of Actaulized.org, one example being the use of the metaphor of the signal and noise.

I noticed that too lol. 

I see some people leaning left. Am I the only one who sees the problem with left's authoritarianism and censorship, having some nasty tactics as silencing, blaming, name calling such as transphobic, demanding, victimizing themselves? I kind of dig JP's video about twitter ban. Although JP is being excessively mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfKWQqvFac

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17 minutes ago, The_Searcher said:

I noticed that too lol. 

I see some people leaning left. Am I the only one who sees the problem with left's authoritarianism and censorship, having some nasty tactics as silencing, blaming, name calling such as transphobic, demanding, victimizing themselves? I kind of dig JP's video about twitter ban. Although JP is being excessively mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfKWQqvFac

   Hahaha, yes I noticed that anger too, kind of similar to how bitter Destiny was when he got banned tooxD

   Most of those negatives from the left are coming from immature lefties really, those that mainly reside in social media sites.

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17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Razard86

   I'm sorry, but if you want to attack me properly, quote me properly. That statement came from my post that outlays the complexity of this issue first from a developmental perspective, before I reminded some of you you have an LP, somewhere, waiting to be discovered, if only you stopped complaining. That was it, simple.

 

   Hahaha, I don't care for arguing and debating, I don't care for people's so called opinions on JP as personal attacks, nor personal attacks, and I don't care. I just noticed a pattern that some users find themselves stuck in, like a broken record, repeating negative talking points against JP, which was also what made me stuck in the past. 

I quoted you properly I copy and pasted what you told me. You have a lot of denial in you. Wayyyy to much denial. And you are still here posting after saying you don't have enough time because you are working on your LP. And I'm not criticizing you, again more projection. I'm merely showing you what you are typing and you are reacting to your own image. I'm watching this in real time and it is actually really profound. All I have to do is quote you and your ego takes over.....you aren't even noticing this....


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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@Razard86

2 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

I quoted you properly I copy and pasted what you told me. You have a lot of denial in you. Wayyyy to much denial. And you are still here posting after saying you don't have enough time because you are working on your LP. And I'm not criticizing you, again more projection. I'm merely showing you what you are typing and you are reacting to your own image. I'm watching this in real time and it is actually really profound. All I have to do is quote you and your ego takes over.....you aren't even noticing this....

   Yes, I agree, it's profound to observe this level of ignorance to deny misquoting me, when it clearly shows your name in the quote box instead of mine, as if you said what I said, plagiarist. Again, as I said before, I sometimes don't log out, so it seems I'm here all day, but I actually working my LP more IRL, maybe re-read my posts again, for sake of clarity, harlot, before harping on me projecting on you when you're projecting much more on me.

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1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

Most of those negatives from the left are coming from immature lefties really, those that mainly reside in social media sites.

Maybe I need to change my sources lol. Social media definitely attracts more eyeballs in which there a lot of crazy people.

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1 hour ago, The_Searcher said:

I noticed that too lol. 

I see some people leaning left. Am I the only one who sees the problem with left's authoritarianism and censorship, having some nasty tactics as silencing, blaming, name calling such as transphobic, demanding, victimizing themselves? I kind of dig JP's video about twitter ban. Although JP is being excessively mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfKWQqvFac

 

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@The_Searcher

   Hahaha, yes I noticed that anger too, kind of similar to how bitter Destiny was when he got banned tooxD

   Most of those negatives from the left are coming from immature lefties really, those that mainly reside in social media sites.

 

5 minutes ago, The_Searcher said:

Maybe I need to change my sources lol. Social media definitely attracts more eyeballs in which there a lot of crazy people.


Complaining about censorship, while complaining about those complaining about censorship. 


Come on guys.

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9 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

 

 


Complaining about censorship, while complaining about those complaining about censorship. 


Come on guys.

    Come on, I bet you can relate a bit, with those thread locks and warnings issued to you.

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16 minutes ago, The_Searcher said:

Maybe I need to change my sources lol. Social media definitely attracts more eyeballs in which there a lot of crazy people.

   Yes, as the saying goes in investment, 'diversify your portfolio.'

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11 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

Complaining about censorship, while complaining about those complaining about censorship.
Come on guys.

That's funny how you put it lol. It goes deep.

3 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@BlueOak

    Come on, I bet you can relate a bit, with those thread locks and warnings issued to you.

Yeah, exactly. 

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15 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@BlueOak

    Come on, I bet you can relate a bit, with those thread locks and warnings issued to you.

 

10 minutes ago, The_Searcher said:

That's funny how you put it lol. It goes deep.

Yeah, exactly. 

No warning points. This forum seems very reasonable in its moderation. I also don't care if a thread gets locked when its done, if we had the discussion, then we had the discussion, what comes next is less important. It's annoying if it happens mid-conversation, especially on a particularly serious issue that someone is having.


I do complain about censorship myself quite often. Maybe the last ten years I've come to accept that some is necessary as people on a whole, can't or don't take more than one perspective on an issue into account. This leads them into narrower and narrower viewpoints when presented with so many speakers and channels.

The balance is the more there is censorship the less people can form their own opinions on subjects, at least those of us that do try to look through different providers and speakers have less to look at. Insights are missed for example, and things repeat until they are seen.

 

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@BlueOak

4 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

 

No warning points. This forum seems very reasonable in its moderation. I also don't care if a thread gets locked when its done, if we had the discussion, then we had the discussion, what comes next is less important. It's annoying if it happens mid-conversation, especially on a particularly serious issue that someone is having.


I do complain about censorship myself quite often. Maybe the last ten years I've come to accept that some is necessary as people on a whole, can't or don't take more than one perspective on an issue into account. This leads them into narrower and narrower viewpoints when presented with so many speakers and channels.

The balance is the more there is censorship the less people can form their own opinions on subjects, at least those of us that do try to look through different providers and speakers have less to look at. Insights are missed for example, and things repeat until they are seen.

 

   Are you new to the forum, or to social media?

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1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Razard86

   Yes, I agree, it's profound to observe this level of ignorance to deny misquoting me, when it clearly shows your name in the quote box instead of mine, as if you said what I said, plagiarist. Again, as I said before, I sometimes don't log out, so it seems I'm here all day, but I actually working my LP more IRL, maybe re-read my posts again, for sake of clarity, harlot, before harping on me projecting on you when you're projecting much more on me.

It doesn't matter if it says my name...again I copy and pasted what you wrote. There was no misquote. You still aren't following your advice. You said you were too busy working on your LP and that I should do the same (which is you giving me orders) which you aren't doing. On the main page currently it is showing you have posted in the most topics currently....so the next question would be...is this your LP?


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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7 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

It doesn't matter if it says my name...again I copy and pasted what you wrote. There was no misquote. You still aren't following your advice. You said you were too busy working on your LP and that I should do the same (which is you giving me orders) which you aren't doing. On the main page currently it is showing you have posted in the most topics currently....so the next question would be...is this your LP?

   No, it does matter that you've misquoted me. You can copy and paste what I wrote, but give proper credit to who has written those words, not replace my user name with yours. IRL, that's an act of false accusation you did to me, and if you chose to make a profit without crediting me, that's plagiarism, which means I have the legal right to sue you for defamation and lost profits.

   I am following my advice, to not only understand perspectives, but to develop mine over lesser minds than mine. I also am non judgmental and open minded despite my wording, my wording is intended to cause a self reflective reaction in you and other JP haters, to stimulate your intrapersonal intelligence such to catch how you bs yourself. I didn't give you orders like you were my mule, I gave you a suggestion as in you should probably work on your LP too, adding to that I sometimes DON'T LOG OUT, giving you a false impression of the length of time I'm in this website.

   No this is not my LP, my LP is an illustrator, I illustrate the dark parts of your psyche, so if you found this valuable and are triggered, follow the link, fork over a down payment of 20%, and for one week I make a dark image of you, if you like it pay the full price here http//blankcanvas.com, if not, no full price charge but the down payment is non refundable, also the Patreon link to donate for my financial independence http//Patreon.com/blackhag. Also I do NSFW, for a higher price too. hit the bell icon, leave a like and comment below and let me know if any of this makes sense in your sense making, and if you need further clarification, dm me and don't derail the thread. Have a good day.

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3 hours ago, acidgoofy said:

good take by ken wilber

Damn wilber got hair again lmao


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On 7/14/2022 at 0:27 PM, Danioover9000 said:

@Razard86

   It is possible, because we not only have multiple types of intelligences, we also have varying degrees of each one. Some people have low intrapersonal intelligence(self awareness of one's ego) to high intrapersonal intelligence. Yes, JP has higher interpersonal intelligence of other's psychology, and varying degrees of mathematical, linguistic, bodily, spatial, nature, philosophical and existential intelligences. There are varying degree of cognitive development as well, so just because JP is lower in the existential/philosophical and intrapersonal intelligence, doesn't mean he's evil, he's where he's at in his stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personality typing, states of being, and life experiences he has had plus other lines of development. Most people would not be self aware kf their delusions, just as much as you were before coming to Actualized.org. There was a time in your life you weren't aware of your delusions, so don't be judgemental of JP too quickly.

   So, JP shouldn't be paid and lead his LP the way he wants to? Careful, I could flip this back at you, like what makes it justified you should be paid for your LP, while JP shouldn't?

   When I said I don't like participating in this tier 1 pissing contest, and be part of the hate bandwagon, I mean that some users here are so hateful and biased against JP that I can feel the negativity, and I don't want any of that as it wastes my time and energy. I can clearly see the hate in how you write, and how others who hate JP write their opinions of him. I ain't got time for that, as I'm busy with my life purpose, and so should you. Go work your LP instead of JP complaining.

Here I'll help you so you can't deny it. Here is the whole quote. I put it in bold for you.

I was gonna leave you alone but since you want to accuse me of misquoting you I will make it easier for you.

There is no context to be given. You literally said "I can clearly see the hate in how you write, and how others who hate JP write their opinions of him. I ain't got time for that, as I'm busy with my life purpose, and so should you. Go work your LP instead of JP complaining."

1. Who are you to tell others what they should be doing? 

2. You are not following your advice.

3. You are now engaging in the same behavior as Jordan Peterson which is.....not following your own advice.

 


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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@Razard86 Let's start again, for clarity's sake. This was the post you quoted from which is mine.

On 7/14/2022 at 5:27 PM, Danioover9000 said:

@Razard86

   It is possible, because we not only have multiple types of intelligences, we also have varying degrees of each one. Some people have low intrapersonal intelligence(self awareness of one's ego) to high intrapersonal intelligence. Yes, JP has higher interpersonal intelligence of other's psychology, and varying degrees of mathematical, linguistic, bodily, spatial, nature, philosophical and existential intelligences. There are varying degree of cognitive development as well, so just because JP is lower in the existential/philosophical and intrapersonal intelligence, doesn't mean he's evil, he's where he's at in his stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personality typing, states of being, and life experiences he has had plus other lines of development. Most people would not be self aware kf their delusions, just as much as you were before coming to Actualized.org. There was a time in your life you weren't aware of your delusions, so don't be judgemental of JP too quickly.

   So, JP shouldn't be paid and lead his LP the way he wants to? Careful, I could flip this back at you, like what makes it justified you should be paid for your LP, while JP shouldn't?

   When I said I don't like participating in this tier 1 pissing contest, and be part of the hate bandwagon, I mean that some users here are so hateful and biased against JP that I can feel the negativity, and I don't want any of that as it wastes my time and energy. I can clearly see the hate in how you write, and how others who hate JP write their opinions of him. I ain't got time for that, as I'm busy with my life purpose, and so should you. Go work your LP instead of JP complaining.

   This is what you quoted from that post, with your name on top of it:

 

@Razard86 said 'I ain't got time for that, as I'm busy with my life purpose, and so should you. Go work your LP instead of JP complaining.'.

   So, who's copying from whom again?

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21 hours ago, Razard86 said:

.......ummmmm You are literally contradicting yourself writing that statement and by every post you continue to write on this thread.

Can you please notice this? I think you need to stop taking people's opinions on Jordan Peterson as a personal attack. If they don't like what he says... who cares? You are also doing the same thing that you are accusing others of doing.....do you see how this ego blame game leads no where?

Please watch this video by Leo. Debates and arguments can be fun but ultimately they are just an ego game. 

 

21 hours ago, Razard86 said:
On 7/14/2022 at 6:25 PM, Razard86 said:

I ain't got time for that, as I'm busy with my life purpose, and so should you. Go work your LP instead of JP complaining.

   This is your quote. Are you going to deny you have misquoted me?

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9 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Here I'll help you so you can't deny it. Here is the whole quote. I put it in bold for you.

I was gonna leave you alone but since you want to accuse me of misquoting you I will make it easier for you.

There is no context to be given. You literally said "I can clearly see the hate in how you write, and how others who hate JP write their opinions of him. I ain't got time for that, as I'm busy with my life purpose, and so should you. Go work your LP instead of JP complaining."

1. Who are you to tell others what they should be doing? 

2. You are not following your advice.

3. You are now engaging in the same behavior as Jordan Peterson which is.....not following your own advice.

 

   No, you stole those sentences from my post, and put me out of context, by misquoting me!

   Who are you to steal from others and claim them as your quotation?!

   I am following my advice, not you!

   I am defending myself from your misquoting me!

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1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

Here I'll help you so you can't deny it. Here is the whole quote. I put it in bold for you.

I was gonna leave you alone but since you want to accuse me of misquoting you I will make it easier for you.

There is no context to be given. You literally said "I can clearly see the hate in how you write, and how others who hate JP write their opinions of him. I ain't got time for that, as I'm busy with my life purpose, and so should you. Go work your LP instead of JP complaining."

1. Who are you to tell others what they should be doing? 

2. You are not following your advice.

3. You are now engaging in the same behavior as Jordan Peterson which is.....not following your own advice.

 

   Enough is enough. I'm stopping this little exchange between us as it's derailing the thread and going nowhere with this discussion of who misquoted who, if you don't like my dialogue, fine, hit the ignore and avoid me. If you don't like me, great, ignore me. I'm ending it here because I've allowed myself to mud fight with the piggies, and it's not fair for the OP and does not set a good example for those who want to develop towards tier 2 cognition. Adios Amigo.

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1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Razard86

   Enough is enough. I'm stopping this little exchange between us as it's derailing the thread and going nowhere with this discussion of who misquoted who, if you don't like my dialogue, fine, hit the ignore and avoid me. If you don't like me, great, ignore me. I'm ending it here because I've allowed myself to mud fight with the piggies, and it's not fair for the OP and does not set a good example for those who want to develop towards tier 2 cognition. Adios Amigo.

The denial is strong with you..... its amazing actually. All I'm doing is showing you what you stated and its like a deer in headlights. 

Also projection again saying I don't like you, when did I say that? If you do not see the level of projection you are doing I don't know what to tell you. You keep making a lot of assumptions about what people are thinking. 

I think you are a very creative and bright user on this forum and I'm a fan of that thread you have called "I've encountered a spirit and it's living with me." Ask me anything and any advice?

Majority of people on this forum actually care about Jordan Peterson. If they didn't they would not be commenting on this forum. You have been mischaracterizing a lot of people on this thread when I can see love they have for him. The OP himself admires JP I also complimented him many times but for some reason you are taking people's disappointment in JP as if they are disappointed in you.

Nobody is perfect, not me, not you, and not JP. He isn't above following his own advice. The very things he told the Muslims, he should do himself.

Edited by Razard86

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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