Is the mind just a thought?

[Kksd74628]

@Carl-Richard

14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The disagreements around meditation vs. psychedelics is whether it leads to enlightenment or not, not whether it's beneficial.

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"Healthy"

"Loneliness"

That's clinging to attachments; health, companionship

To me you are teaching/reinforcing/learning a belief that you need those things.

I quoted Devin from another thread and he is simply denying those things and thinks that you can just go directly to god-realization. That made me see that many people think that spirituality is just going to cave, dropping attachments and doing nothing with their lifes. It wasn't merely about meditation, but about mastering basic stuff in life, because without those everything could fall apart. Also if something makes you "enlightened" or not is very personal thing and only you could know answer for that for yourself.

-joNi-

[Devin]

On 7/14/2022 at 7:42 AM, Kksd74628 said:

@Carl-Richard

I quoted Devin from another thread and he is simply denying those things and thinks that you can just go directly to god-realization. That made me see that many people think that spirituality is just going to cave, dropping attachments and doing nothing with their lifes. It wasn't merely about meditation, but about mastering basic stuff in life, because without those everything could fall apart. Also if something makes you "enlightened" or not is very personal thing and only you could know answer for that for yourself.

-joNi-

I don't believe in doing nothing with your life, I actually see what you're saying as completely backwards. I don't think you can do anything meaningful without being at peace. And I think the only meaningful thing you can do is be loving and peaceful.

[Razard86]

On 7/14/2022 at 7:27 AM, Carl-Richard said:

@Razard86 @Kksd74628

The disagreements around meditation vs. psychedelics is whether it leads to enlightenment or not, not whether it's beneficial.

I know that's why I said this. "Leo literally did a video where he said you need to make a commitment to meditate everyday and that he meditates everyday."

Leo has said more than once you need to do both. He says Psychedelics cause the greatest state change, use self-inquiry to integrate said experiences, meditate daily to raise your base consciousness. He has said this more than once both on his videos and the forums....multiple times. Especially on the forums. 

People just are not really listening to him so he repeats himself, over and over and over. Leo will just have to repeat himself for infinity I guess..