Carbs/ oatmeal

[Craigxt22]

Hi,

 

I notice Leo is very anti carbs, grains, bread, wheat. Does that mean eating oatmeal is bad?  

[Jannes]

Leo says he has gut problems and is only able to digest certain foods. 
All the major health organisation say that carbs are good.

[Craigxt22]

Ok thanks,

 

Looks like gluten is what he is saying to avoid which is mostly in bread.

 

I eat oats for breakfast, and sometimes before bed as they help me sleep, any idea why?

[Danioover9000]

@Craigxt22

1 hour ago, Craigxt22 said:

Ok thanks,

 

Looks like gluten is what he is saying to avoid which is mostly in bread.

 

I eat oats for breakfast, and sometimes before bed as they help me sleep, any idea why?

   I don't know exactly what makes oatmeal more sleep inducing when eating at night, but I've mostly ate them either as breakfast or lunch and they give me quite enough energy for several hours..

   I highly recommend Quacker brand oatmeals, the porridges are more softer than the whole wheat oatmeals and steel cut ones.

[Jannes]

17 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

Relatively high Tryptophan content in oat is a possible explanation for that sleepiness

2 hours ago, Craigxt22 said:

I eat oats for breakfast, and sometimes before bed as they help me sleep, any idea why?

Interesting. I heard from so many people that they get sleepy from oats and it’s also the case in my personal experience. 

[Danioover9000]

@Jannes

1 hour ago, Jannes said:

Interesting. I heard from so many people that they get sleepy from oats and it’s also the case in my personal experience. 

   It' might be because that particular type of carbohydrate, the body senses it needs to further breakdown, which means it would send more blood to the digestion system, which invariably makes you more tired. It also could likely be what your mixing with the oats, like milk and honey or cherries that effect sleep.

[cupofwater]

Oatmeal has got to be one of my all time favorite foods.

Edited July 11, 2022 by cupofwater

[Danioover9000]

@cupofwater

7 hours ago, cupofwater said:

Oatmeal has got to be one of my all time favorite foods.

   Yes, also because you can make flap jacks too

[Craigxt22]

Okay, thanks all.

 

I am trying to get my diet perfect, within reason. Just looked back on Leo's video on shopping for healthy foods, it seems he is anti gluten. Is gluten mostly in bread?

 

Rice, pasta is okay to eat aswell yes?

[Thought Art]

Pro carb

[Jannes]

4 hours ago, Craigxt22 said:

Okay, thanks all.

 

I am trying to get my diet perfect, within reason. Just looked back on Leo's video on shopping for healthy foods, it seems he is anti gluten. Is gluten mostly in bread?

 

Rice, pasta is okay to eat aswell yes?

Gluten is okay if you are healthy. @Michael569 can probably tell you more about it. 
Gluten is in grain. It is a little different in each. Spelt gluten is a bit different from wheat gluten for example. Most people who say gluten is bad say that wheat gluten is the worst. So if you want to limit gluten then you might want to switch to grain products other then wheat. 

Most pasta is wheatflower pasta. -> gluten. You can buy corn pasta for example but some whole grain pasta is more healthy imo because it has more nutrients. 
 

Some other alternatives: Quinoa, Buckwheat, Rice, all types of Legumes… just google it ?

But whole grain products are cheap, nutritious and easy to integrate so I think it makes sense to integrate them in your diet. But I am also not an expert on gluten. 

[Stovo]

Just listen to your body, see how you feel after eating certain foods, we are all different. 

Just be aware that grains tend to have low nutritional density Vs plants & meat so use them for filler calories once you've reached your nutritional requirements. 

Personally I eat oatmeal in the morning and a small carb portion with my dinner, and that's it for the day. I don't eat gluten because it causes bloating and flatulence for me, as does spinach weirdly. 

[Jannes]

3 hours ago, Stovo said:

Just listen to your body, see how you feel after eating certain foods, we are all different. 

Just be aware that grains tend to have low nutritional density Vs plants & meat so use them for filler calories once you've reached your nutritional requirements. 

Personally I eat oatmeal in the morning and a small carb portion with my dinner, and that's it for the day. I don't eat gluten because it causes bloating and flatulence for me, as does spinach weirdly. 

I wouldn’t say that. Whole grains have quite a bit of vitamins and minerals in them especially B-vitamins. Of course veggies for example have far more nutrients per calorie but whole grains are more then just a calorie “filler“. 

[cupofwater]

On 7/11/2022 at 2:44 AM, Danioover9000 said:

@cupofwater

   Yes, also because you can make flap jacks too

Yes!!! 

[Danioover9000]

@Craigxt22

On 7/12/2022 at 6:13 PM, Craigxt22 said:

Okay, thanks all.

 

I am trying to get my diet perfect, within reason. Just looked back on Leo's video on shopping for healthy foods, it seems he is anti gluten. Is gluten mostly in bread?

 

Rice, pasta is okay to eat aswell yes?

   Yes, Rice and pasta contains a bit less glutton, but with rice there's the other problem of heavy metals like arsenic, depending on brand and where that rice product came from, and with pasta it's should be okay.

   The other problem with wheat, and with increasing your fiber intake, is if the fiber intake is too high for you, you'll poop harder stools, increasing your likelihood of  other digestion problems of too high fiber. This is why I don't like whole meal or steel cut oats, or brown rice/pasta. Test yourself if you can mix vinegar, like malt vinegar or balsamic vinegar. Apple cyder vinegar with honey is great. Also check out fermented foods like sour krauts and similar fermented foods like that. 

[Jannes]

4 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

The other problem with wheat, and with increasing your fiber intake, is if the fiber intake is too high for you, you'll poop harder stools, increasing your likelihood of  other digestion problems of too high fiber. 

Is it really about the fiber though ? There are just some foods that make your poop hard like whole grain bread, banana, stuff like that. Most vegetables don’t make it harder they actually make it less hard. Also enough fat intake and hydration is important for smooth poop. 

[Superfluo]

@Michael569

15 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

genetic mutation on HLADQ5 or HLADQ8

Isn't it HLADQ2 or HLADQ8?

[ZenAlex]

Complex carbs give me long lasting energy. Fat and protein satiates. 

[Stovo]

On 14/07/2022 at 4:18 PM, Jannes said:

I wouldn’t say that. Whole grains have quite a bit of vitamins and minerals in them especially B-vitamins. Of course veggies for example have far more nutrients per calorie but whole grains are more then just a calorie “filler“. 

Compare wholegrain nutrition Vs beef, salmon, or liver, then come back to me

[Jannes]

42 minutes ago, Stovo said:

Compare wholegrain nutrition Vs beef, salmon, or liver, then come back to me

Dude why so emotional ?

I put 1000 calories of each into Cronometer. Yes the food you suggested is incredible nutritious but what’s the point in going above 100%? For some nutrients especially when it’s an animal source that’s actually unhealthy. You see it when it’s marked red. 
This whole grain wheat bread looks pretty nutritious to me if the goal is to reach 100% in every nutrient. Plant sources never give you the "full package“ but mix it with food from other food categories and you are good to go.