Question about power of not knowing

[StarStruck]

Not knowing gets you to first order truth, not second order right? I understand the first order. I’m confused about second order: is second order just language or can second order also be truth without language(or symbolism)?

Also Leo says we should merge epistemology and metaphysics in his "what is truth video". What does he mean with that?

Edited July 9, 2022 by StarStruck

[StarStruck]

@Leo isn’t first order (absolute) truth sameness and second order (relative) truth separateness?

[Leo Gura]

Not-knowing is also helpful with gaining 2nd order relative truths because your mind is open to fresh insight and new perspectives.

States of direct consciousness or nondual states are the merger of metaphysics and epistemology, where you know a thing by being it, not thinking about it.

Consider thinking about a fork vs becoming a fork. That's the difference. 

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

@Leo isn’t first order (absolute) truth sameness and second order (relative) truth separateness?

Not quite.

[StarStruck]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Not quite.

So first order is basically when subject and object collapses aka the quantum field?

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

So first order is basically when subject and object collapses aka the quantum field?

1st order is your direct experience.

There is no quantum field. There is just your present experience and absolutely nothing else.