Dissociation because of spiritual thinking

[Ima Freeman]

On 17.6.2022 at 1:39 AM, RickyFitts said:

On the one hand we're led to believe that we're everything, the whole universe, and on the other we're led to believe that we're NOT the body and mind - this is clearly a contradiction in terms, because body and mind are part of the manifestation, too. It seems to me that you very much ARE the body and mind, it's just that you're not JUST body and mind.

I can't see myself as the universe. More like the perceiving entity.

Spiritual awakenings are lacking in my case.

[Ima Freeman]

On 17.6.2022 at 2:06 AM, Matthew85 said:

@Ima Freeman Be very discerning in adopting beliefs of others. There are many well meaning teachers and gurus offering truths mixed with very distorted information. Cultivate your own intuition and critical thinking skills and give much less authority to people outside of yourself. 

 

Thank you for your advice, I have to get my own insights anyway. But I long for guidance
I trust spiritual authorities, because from them stem my initial motivations for mysticism.
In a way it stems from my mind I guess 

[Ima Freeman]

On 17.6.2022 at 2:30 AM, Leo Gura said:

Another point:

If you think that you are the watcher or witness, as some Neo-Advaita teachers like to teach, then yeah, you will start to feel dissociated because you've created a subtle duality between you and world. There is a deeper, truly nondual realization in which you realize that you are both the witness and the objects being witnessed. You are both emptiness and form.

Be ware of these subtle dualities. They are quite common because most spiritual people have not awoken deeply enough.

If someone is telling you that you are the watcher of the dream, but not the dream content itself, they are not fully awake.

The problem with me is, that I am very much asleep, yet reading and thinking about advanced spiritual matters.
I don't have experiential knowledge, but I have to start somewhere.

[Ima Freeman]

I am not talking about dissociation like modern psychiatry is defining it, btw

[Kksd74628]

@Ima Freeman

Even if you had control you'd do the most optimal thing which you think at the moment and that's based on information from outside + your analysis. That being said no control  doesn't mean that you're stuck in your past, but it means that everything is so smooth when you see it happening right NOW that saying you've no control is the best descriprion for it. No control means that you can't make any mistakes in a sense so just step back and enjoy the ride. 

-joNi-

[Ima Freeman]

On 17.6.2022 at 3:49 AM, Terell Kirby said:

Truth is, you are in control of your body, mind and actions … as well as body minds and actions of the entire universe. Going deep enough you will realize that your free will (as God) is Infinite. Question is, will you be able to take on that level of ownership and responsibility as the Creator of life itself?

This is nowhere near of what my experience is.

Does that mean, that every time a human (or animal) comes into my experience, it is me who deceives myself into thinking there is another being doing stuff?