Headaches, Nausea, Stomach Knots and Healing

[Raptorsin7]

I was wondering if anyone has direct insight into an issue i'm having.

So last night I got a bit drunk and was vomiting with a bad headache. I noticed that when I would put my attention on my stomach and relax the headache would get worse, but it would also lead to me vomiting.

The act of vomiting was really healing, I could feel my whole body convulse, and when I would feel into my stomach and vomit more I'd feel better. 

But the relief would only last a few moments and then the headache would come back and I'd be forced to deal with it until I could vomit again and get some release.

The issue is I have such a strong aversion to vomiting so I spent most of the time laying in bed and avoiding my stomach sensations because it would make my headache worse. So I was just stuck with the pain.

This is the same thing that happens when I take psychidelics which I thought was interesting. I also noticed that when I was vomiting my sinuses would clear up from the vomiting, not sure how that happened but the more I vomited and convulsed the more my nose would clear.

Has anyone experienced this or does anyone have ideas about how I can resolve this stomach issue.

[Thought Art]

Your vommiting toxins from the body which the body likes ? 

Your brain is in your stomach, and your skull. They are connected. 
 

For a deeper reason, I don’t know. But google likely has an answer. 
 

is it a stomach issue, or were you just really drunk?

Edited June 12, 2022 by Thought Art

[Osaid]

How to resolve the issue? Stop drinking so much, I guess. Seems like it's happening cause you're drinking, right?

On the topic of releasing tension in the stomach, I have actually noticed that I unconsciously clench my stomach a lot. It might be the case that you are unconsciously preventing yourself from vomiting, and when you relax your stomach your body just takes its natural course, which is vomiting.

On the topic of being scared of vomiting, yeah I hate vomiting as well, and I can relate to staying in bed and avoiding it. The feeling sucks. But the aftermath of vomiting, the process of letting that fear go and facing that toilet/garbage can and saying "ok lets get it over with I need to vomit" is very relaxing and therapeutic for sure. I have noticed that as well. You just gotta bite the bullet, realize that you're gonna vomit, and go all in, with the realization that everything will be all good and blissful right after. The resistance to vomiting just brings extra nausea and anxiety, so it's best you get it done with. Pay attention to how amazing you feel confronting the feeling of vomiting and being done with it, and then remember that the next time you feel like vomiting, and it should make the process more easier, awareness is curative as they say.

[Raptorsin7]

@Thought Art @Osaid I get the same issue when I take psychidelics.

And I've had breakthroughs where I felt so deeply into my stomach that it resolved.

But it's not consistent, and I want to resolve the issue completely if I can 

[Osaid]

46 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:

I get the same issue when I take psychidelics.

And I've had breakthroughs where I felt so deeply into my stomach that it resolved.

But it's not consistent, and I want to resolve the issue completely if I can 

Sounds like it might be a more nuanced issue, then. My only advice is to start researching and paying attention to your body.

I've heard certain psychedelics can make people nauseous, so maybe look into that, but look into it deeply. See what the actual mechanism is that psychedelics have which makes people nauseous. See if the symptoms are consistent or related to anything, was anything potentially different the times you weren't vomiting? And also, what are you vomiting out? What is the vomiting like, what does it look like? Really look deep into all the factors.

Also, is a headache always present during the vomiting? That seems to be an interesting symptom, cause when I vomit I don't necessarily have a headache. You should also maybe look up what that indicates.

[Raptorsin7]

3 minutes ago, Osaid said:

I've heard certain psychedelics can make people nauseous, so maybe look into that, but look into it deeply. See what the actual mechanism is that psychedelics have which makes people nauseous. See if the symptoms are consistent or related to anything, was anything potentially different the times you weren't vomiting? And also, what are you vomiting out? What is the vomiting like, what does it look like? Really look deep into all the factors.

 

Maybe different psychidelics can have more or less nausea, but i've only done LSD and shrooms and both gave me nausea and headaches, although on some trips it wasn't nearly as bad as others.

I vomit water and some flem stuff. I noticed that when I vomit it causes my body to convulse, and the convulsion is what brings relief. It's like my body is so clenched that it needs to just spasm to release, but I am so resistant to this kind of release. I feel like if I could just have a full on convulsion without resistance then I could get to the root sensation driving all this suffering, but I have some unconscious resistance.

I think its related to repressed aspects of my sexuality, and a fear of shitting myself because i got shamed for that as a child. Maybe I have such strong resistances to those things that my mind/body refuses to fully let go and risk something come up that i've repressed.

6 minutes ago, Osaid said:

Also, is a headache always present during the vomiting? That seems to be an interesting symptom, cause when I vomit I don't necessarily have a headache. You should also maybe look up what that indicates.

Yeah the headache is the worst part. It's a sharp, migraine type pain and I get some relief when I vomit so it's kinda nice. The headache is likely related to some hyper tension and control, and sinus issues. When I vomit and convulse my body, I can feel my sinuses clearing. Like if I were to vomit freely then my sinuses would clear up fully and I'd have a clear nose.

Idk how long it will take to resolve this. I've been aware of a lot of this for about year or so now, but it's still there. I'm slowly growing more bodily awareness and addressing the issue from multiple angles, but I really wish I could meet someone who could clearly understand what I was going through and give me some kind of treatment plan.