Leo, how do you influence people close to you?

[Razard86]

10 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

there are 3 different outcomes of trips

1. "I saw/am god or had a mystical experience"

2. "I saw cool colors, shapes, and everything felt amazing"

3. "That was pure hell."

Yeah I know that much. I was just wondering, psychedelics really do bring forth what is within. So I guess if that person is not on the path...they are not going to experience ego death. They say it shows you what you most need to see. So I guess for some people....they need to see colors and shapes lol.

[Michael Jackson]

17 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

would bet that they do see mystical stuff but just deny, reject, or dismiss it

In fact, we ALWAYS see "mystical stuff", we simply overlook it. It doesn't matter wether you've taken psychedelics or not

[puporing]

12 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Yeah I know that much. I was just wondering, psychedelics really do bring forth what is within. So I guess if that person is not on the path...they are not going to experience ego death. They say it shows you what you most need to see. So I guess for some people....they need to see colors and shapes lol.

I've been to a few psychedelic meetups in my area now and none of the people there (some with more experience) know about awakening/ego death. Most find that it helps with their mental health/personal stuff, some see spirits and believe in those. Actually when I bring up these potentials the ego backlash kicks in and most just ignore me after with a few exceptions.  

On the other hand, I experience alot of colors and shapes on just about every trip which I appreciate very much (it can be very pretty and magical  ), but in combination with the insights.

Edited June 5, 2022 by puporing

[Razard86]

4 hours ago, puporing said:

I've been to a few psychedelic meetups in my area now and none of the people there (some with more experience) know about awakening/ego death. Most find that it helps with their mental health/personal stuff, some see spirits and believe in those. Actually when I bring up these potentials the ego backlash kicks in and most just ignore me after with a few exceptions.  

On the other hand, I experience alot of colors and shapes on just about every trip which I appreciate very much (it can be very pretty and magical  ), but in combination with the insights.

Interesting, I notice you love that term ego backlash. Did you coin that term?  And cool yeah the colors can be awe inspiring.

5 hours ago, Michael Jackson said:

In fact, we ALWAYS see "mystical stuff", we simply overlook it. It doesn't matter wether you've taken psychedelics or not

This is true, but my consciousness has been returned to baseline at the moment so I don't see the mystical stuff as clearly.

6 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

Actually I would bet that they do see mystical stuff but just deny, reject, or dismiss it. Your average person is too scared to say something outside of the social norms so even if they did experience it they wouldn't reveal it to their tribe for fear of getting kicked out. These are the same people that believe every lie that society tells them and rejects every truth that the enlightened world tells them.

This makes a lot of sense. The sad thing is I couldn't test this for myself on me I would have to find some low conscious person and watch them take psychedelics to find out lol.

[puporing]

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Interesting, I notice you love that term ego backlash. Did you coin that term?  And cool yeah the colors can be awe inspiring.

Lmao no pretty sure I first heard it from Leo ?. 

Yes it can be so pretty sometimes... Who knew colors could be so rich. And patterns. Sometimes I get these beautiful lace like patterns on my body and sheets, and purply sparkles in the air rofl. 

Edited June 5, 2022 by puporing