Is sex the most important aspect of life ?

[puporing]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

I agree . I remember Osho saying something along the lines is that to transcend sex you must live it fully first .

Yes! That's exactly what I'm talking about . 

[Gesundheit2]

10 hours ago, Someone here said:

sex is not big deal.

Said my dick after ejaculation, each and every time.

[Someone here]

30 minutes ago, Gesundheit2 said:

Said my dick after ejaculation, each and every time.

They call it post-nut clarity. It's a thing. 

If you wanna avoid this nonsense..do away with fapping off.

[Gesundheit2]

21 minutes ago, Someone here said:

They call it post-nut clarity. It's a thing. 

If you wanna avoid this nonsense..do away with fapping off.

Kinda got me confused there. Is it clarity or nonsense?

Anyway, I wish I could do way with fapping, but I can't. Apparently, my dick is bigger than my brain lol.

[Someone here]

4 hours ago, Gesundheit2 said:

Anyway, I wish I could do way with fapping, but I can't. Apparently, my dick is bigger than my brain lol.

Its really not worth it . You waste your health for the sake of 9 seconds of tingling sensation.  Just think about how stupid of a deal that is .

we all know after you nut one out you just lose it for a while. But not too long lol. You should recover within two days max. 

Also if you are not a horny teenager anymore you really shouldn't be yanking your Johnson anymore. your testosterone just stabilize and you are not horny anymore unless you purposely arouse yourself.  Just save it for your girl. Also avoid pornograhy completely I don't need to tell ya that and don't bullshit my ass and say it's harmless. 

Also make sure you eat like a horse if you fap frequently to recover the lost energy. Or just don't fap at all if you are weak. 

[something_else]

40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Its really not worth it . You waste your health for the sake of 9 seconds of tingling sensation.  Just think about how stupid of a deal that is .

we all know after you nut one out you just lose it for a while. But not too long lol. You should recover within two days max. 

Also if you are not a horny teenager anymore you really shouldn't be yanking your Johnson anymore. your testosterone just stabilize and you are not horny anymore unless you purposely arouse yourself.  Just save it for your girl. Also avoid pornograhy completely I don't need to tell ya that and don't bullshit my ass and say it's harmless. 

Also make sure you eat like a horse if you fap frequently to recover the lost energy. Or just don't fap at all if you are weak. 

Just stop dude.

If you take two days to recover from ejaculating, there's something biologically atypical about you. It's not normal.

If you feel guilty about jerking off, that's because of brainwashing from culture or content that you consume. It's sexual repression.

Jerking off does not consume lots of energy that you need to recover. Your body produces semen 24/7 at a fairly constant rate, whether or not you ejaculate.

And the calorie count of semen is almost negligible, so you're not losing energy when it leaves your body.

[Someone here]

49 minutes ago, something_else said:

Just stop dude.

If you take two days to recover from ejaculating, there's something biologically atypical about you. It's not normal.

If you feel guilty about jerking off, that's because of brainwashing from culture or content that you consume. It's sexual repression.

Jerking off does not consume lots of energy that you need to recover. Your body produces semen 24/7 at a fairly constant rate, whether or not you ejaculate.

And the calorie count of semen is almost negligible, so you're not losing energy when it leaves your body.

To each his own. I do believe it depends on the person .it can be healthy or unhealthy depending on the person . For me personally masturbation has fucked me up big time in the past two years or so that I'm really considering quitting for good .

Here are some of the harmful effects of masturbation to be considered, kindly read and try to understand that I'm being honest in reporting these effects and its even backed up by science. 

1. Masturbation makes you weak, it drains protein and calcium content in the body

2. Masturbation creates nervousness and neurological problems

3. Masturbation is one of the main causes for erectile dysfunction. Because when you masturbate you use a tight grip on your penis .and that is not how vaginal sex happen .the vagina is more wide than your grip .so when you actually try to have sex after years of masturbation you will be disappointed by the widness of the vagina compared to your grip .

4. Masturbation makes you addicted even if you taste it for one time. Controlling it is a very big menace.

5. Masturbation creates drowsiness .you will be sleeping most of the time after ejaculation of your sperm. You will experience a damn tired.

6. Masturbation causes stress and strain in your mind and soul.

7. Masturbation also affects us psychologically. it creates depression after ejaculation and makes one feeling bad on his own.

Now once again ..that's just my experience with masturbation. I'm not saying everyone will experience the same effect . But I do believe that masturbation has its own season in life which is the age of puberty (14-18)..after that it becomes boring and repetitive and you should start becoming a man and seek relationships with real women rather than with your hands .

[Federico del pueblo]

@Someone hereh

Sorry, but this is simply not the experience of a lot of guys (the masturbation problems).

Let me address it one by one.

44 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation makes you weak, it drains protein and calcium content in the body

Maybe science says that. I don't feel weak from masturbating at all though.

45 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation creates nervousness and neurological problems

No it doesn't. It has quite the opposite on me. It makes me feel relaxed and relieved.

(Porn certainly can have these effects though)

 

47 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation is one of the main causes for erectile dysfunction. Because when you masturbate you use a tight grip on your penis .and that is not how vaginal sex happen .the vagina is more wide than your grip .so when you actually try to have sex after years of masturbation you will be disappointed by the widness of the vagina compared to your grip .

Easy to prevent by simply not using a tight grip. And no, vaginas aren't that wide. It's not like the average vaginal opening is wider than the average penis.

The grip I use when masturbating is often so light that I'm barely still moving the skin. The arousal comes from naughty (?) thoughts, which btw also have positive effect on ones sexuality.

51 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation makes you addicted even if you taste it for one time. Controlling it is a very big menace

You could say the same about sex (or about reading or playing volleyball or meditation). But actually it's not all that addicting when you do it responsibly. It's kinda like with every type of pleasure, that at some point we'd like re-experience the thing.

 

53 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation creates drowsiness .you will be sleeping most of the time after ejaculation of your sperm. You will experience a damn tired.

It creates relaxation.

So if you already were tired before masturbation (or sex for that matter), then you'll have an easier time falling asleep after masturbating. But I don't see any harm in that. Often we masturbate when we want a short release of tension anyway. The tiredness after masturbating goes away quickly and then I'm better than before.

56 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation causes stress and strain in your mind and soul

 

No it doesn't. It creates satisfaction and relaxation in my soul. Of course it's not a strategy to become happy or whatever. It's just a healthy temporary activity.

58 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation also affects us psychologically. it creates depression after ejaculation and makes one feeling bad on his own.

No it doesn't. I feel completely fine after ejaculating.

 

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

after that it becomes boring and repetitive and you should start becoming a man and seek relationships with real women rather than with your hands .

Well you are one to speak about relationships

But I don't think it has anything to do with whether or not you're a man. Realize that this is a bias of yours

[Danioover9000]

@Someone here

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

To each his own. I do believe it depends on the person .it can be healthy or unhealthy depending on the person . For me personally masturbation has fucked me up big time in the past two years or so that I'm really considering quitting for good .

Here are some of the harmful effects of masturbation to be considered, kindly read and try to understand that I'm being honest in reporting these effects and its even backed up by science. 

1. Masturbation makes you weak, it drains protein and calcium content in the body

2. Masturbation creates nervousness and neurological problems

3. Masturbation is one of the main causes for erectile dysfunction. Because when you masturbate you use a tight grip on your penis .and that is not how vaginal sex happen .the vagina is more wide than your grip .so when you actually try to have sex after years of masturbation you will be disappointed by the widness of the vagina compared to your grip .

4. Masturbation makes you addicted even if you taste it for one time. Controlling it is a very big menace.

5. Masturbation creates drowsiness .you will be sleeping most of the time after ejaculation of your sperm. You will experience a damn tired.

6. Masturbation causes stress and strain in your mind and soul.

7. Masturbation also affects us psychologically. it creates depression after ejaculation and makes one feeling bad on his own.

Now once again ..that's just my experience with masturbation. I'm not saying everyone will experience the same effect . But I do believe that masturbation has its own season in life which is the age of puberty (14-18)..after that it becomes boring and repetitive and you should start becoming a man and seek relationships with real women rather than with your hands .

1. Yes, but not crippling levels of protein and calcium lose.

2. Yes, as I've felt the phantom pains and tingling around my throat, chest and hips if I fap too frequently.

3. Yes, but not limited to tight gripping, You could have a softer grip with slower pace, or be humping a body pillow and masturbate that way, it's the frequent ejaculation that not leads to erectile dysfunction, but can also lead to more leaking of urine even after you really clear yourself afterwards. 

4. Yes, big menace to try to self discipline, but self discipline you have to anyways.

5. Yes, it will make you drowsy and maybe give brain fog, but this is not the only cause of drowsiness or brain fog.

6. Yes, absolutely can and does increase internal stress levels. A person's endocrine system has to re-calibrate for the lost seminal fluids.

7. No, because it depends on your upbringing whether you feel psychologically negative before/after fapping. A pervert who accepts their sexuality and fapping won't feel as guilty as a person who hasn't. So, not always feeling guilty.

[something_else]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

To each his own. I do believe it depends on the person .it can be healthy or unhealthy depending on the person . For me personally masturbation has fucked me up big time in the past two years or so that I'm really considering quitting for good .

Here are some of the harmful effects of masturbation to be considered, kindly read and try to understand that I'm being honest in reporting these effects and its even backed up by science. 

1. Masturbation makes you weak, it drains protein and calcium content in the body

2. Masturbation creates nervousness and neurological problems

3. Masturbation is one of the main causes for erectile dysfunction. Because when you masturbate you use a tight grip on your penis .and that is not how vaginal sex happen .the vagina is more wide than your grip .so when you actually try to have sex after years of masturbation you will be disappointed by the widness of the vagina compared to your grip .

4. Masturbation makes you addicted even if you taste it for one time. Controlling it is a very big menace.

5. Masturbation creates drowsiness .you will be sleeping most of the time after ejaculation of your sperm. You will experience a damn tired.

6. Masturbation causes stress and strain in your mind and soul.

7. Masturbation also affects us psychologically. it creates depression after ejaculation and makes one feeling bad on his own.

Now once again ..that's just my experience with masturbation. I'm not saying everyone will experience the same effect . But I do believe that masturbation has its own season in life which is the age of puberty (14-18)..after that it becomes boring and repetitive and you should start becoming a man and seek relationships with real women rather than with your hands .

Backed up by science? OK, show me the science behind 1, 2, 5, 6 and 7. The others in here are valid points.

I have no problem with you reporting your own experience of problems with masturbation. What annoys me is when you present your own experience like it is fact and applies to everyone, when that is not the case.

Edited June 3, 2022 by something_else

[Someone here]

@something_else @Danioover9000 @Federico del pueblo this post is directed to the three of you because you three have quoted the same post of mine..

First of all like I said it varies from person to person. It depends on your age ,your diet ,your genetics,your lifestyle etc 

But just a couple of points:

1.So let’s get into the guts of it . on a cellular level.. When you ejaculate, you lose nutrients from your body. Most of the nutrients are lost in trace amounts, but zinc, selenium, and copper are significant and cause significant issues.

2.watching porn and fappping to it does rewire the brain to be responsive to porn and masturbation rather than real sex .check out the site  www.yourbrainonporn.com

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/dopamine-and-addiction/&ved=2ahUKEwir3N3F7pH4AhU5gv0HHUv8CoYQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1SJHKHZ3W7FiS9ECU-ms6U

3.yes you can use a light grip or hump a pillow .but most people actually do it the way monkey does it .they beat the shit out of their dick .because another side effect of chronic masturbation is desensitisation of the penis .you start feel less pleasure down there If you've been fapping for years .so you must use a fast tight grip. Or what's called "death grip". And otherwise you cannot reach an orgasm from gentle light strokes .

4.And don’t forget when you ejaculate, the good hormones and chemicals in your body are DECREASED - Serotonin (happy drug), Oxytocin (love drug), and Dopamine (euphoria drug). These hormones  are produced in high levels when you watch porn and ejaculate. But what goes up, must come down. So these chemicals and hormones are decreased, but that then causes Prolactin to increase. An increase in Prolactin can mean poor moods, tiredness, and difficulty getting an erection.

5. There is no question about it .masturbation and porn are an addiction. Sexual orgasm is the single most potent activity that triggers release of dopamine in your brain. Most teenagers are addicted to it .because they want to stop but they can't. 

 

[Federico del pueblo]

8 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@something_else @Danioover9000 @Federico del pueblo this post is directed to the three of you because you three have quoted the same post of mine..

First of all like I said it varies from person to person. It depends on your age ,your diet ,your genetics,your lifestyle etc 

But just a couple of points:

1.So let’s get into the guts of it . on a cellular level.. When you ejaculate, you lose nutrients from your body. Most of the nutrients are lost in trace amounts, but zinc, selenium, and copper are significant and cause significant issues.

2.watching porn and fappping to it does rewire the brain to be responsive to porn and masturbation rather than real sex .check out the site  www.yourbrainonporn.com

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/dopamine-and-addiction/&ved=2ahUKEwir3N3F7pH4AhU5gv0HHUv8CoYQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1SJHKHZ3W7FiS9ECU-ms6U

3.yes you can use a light grip or hump a pillow .but most people actually do it the way monkey does it .they beat the shit out of their dick .because another side effect of chronic masturbation is desensitisation of the penis .you start feel less pleasure down there If you've been fapping for years .so you must use a fast tight grip. Or what's called "death grip". And otherwise you cannot reach an orgasm from gentle light strokes .

4.And don’t forget when you ejaculate, the good hormones and chemicals in your body are DECREASED - Serotonin (happy drug), Oxytocin (love drug), and Dopamine (euphoria drug). These hormones  are produced in high levels when you watch porn and ejaculate. But what goes up, must come down. So these chemicals and hormones are decreased, but that then causes Prolactin to increase. An increase in Prolactin can mean poor moods, tiredness, and difficulty getting an erection.

5. There is no question about it .masturbation and porn are an addiction. Sexual orgasm is the single most potent activity that triggers release of dopamine in your brain. Most teenagers are addicted to it .because they want to stop but they can't. 

 

Look, it's all good if you have arguments against masturbation, but at the end of the day everyone must feel into their body and feel what an activity does to them.

If I fapped 3x per day I'd have a problem. But my masturbation is moderated.

Also I agree on the porn thing. Porn indeed does have negative effects on me, so I don't do it.

But we can't just mix different things together and then say the first thing (masturbation) is really bad because of the second thing. Probably having sex while tripping on heroin is much more unhealthy than just sex alone, right? This doesn't make sex more unhealthy though.

And yes, as with everything, you can do masturbation in the wrong way. Just like working out done correctly is health promoting and working out in the wrong way can cause health problems.

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4.And don’t forget when you ejaculate, the good hormones and chemicals in your body are DECREASED - Serotonin (happy drug), Oxytocin (love drug), and Dopamine (euphoria drug). These hormones  are produced in high levels when you watch porn and ejaculate. But what goes up, must come down. So these chemicals and hormones are decreased, but that then causes Prolactin to increase. An increase in Prolactin can mean poor moods, tiredness, and difficulty getting an erection.

Then, regarding this point, normal sex is just as detrimental if you ejaculate.

And btw, I totally respect it if someone doesn't want to fap. The only thing that gets annoying is if some constantly tells people what they shouldn't do and then calls them weak if they don't live up to his arbitrary standard.

Like, I don't know if you eat meat. But in case you do, you probably don't want to constantly have some vegans lecture you on how you shouldn't eat meat and how bad it is etc., right?

Btw, you also have to beware of your own confirmation bias. You made the experience that masturbation affected you badly. Now you're looking for evidence for why masturbation is bad.

But have you ever tried to do the opposite?

Like doing research for 2 hours on what are all the scientifically proven health benefits of masturbation? You won't have to search long to find benefits either if that's what you want to focus on.

[Someone here]

@Federico del pueblo  As I said in the beginning that's how masturbating affects me . It doesn't necessarily mean it will affect you in the same Way. I think I repeated this point enough now .

I’m struggling with sex too. I just want to add something. Sometimes masturbation and porn are bad that it's  so obvious that its easy to see. It help us to see it as sin without much effort. Unfortunately, sometimes it make us, focus on sex and fail to see other sins within us.

You have to understand that there are thousands of young guys struggling with insane addiction to porn and masturbation. They need rewiring, not just about sex addiction but in all aspect of their life

Because aside from my sex problem, I realize I’m far from perfect, sometimes I become self centered man, a narcist, I say things to get praise from other people, instead looking for God, etc. I need to change all these flaws.

 I just wish i could bring it to a more bigger picture, instead focusing on sex. Although my point could be applied in other aspect of our life as well. So no complain, just some suggestion.

 

[something_else]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

As I said in the beginning that's how masturbating affects me . It doesn't necessarily mean it will affect you in the same Way. I think I repeated this point enough now .

 

Re-read your earlier posts. You talk like your anecdotal experience is objective and applies to everyone. That is what irritates people.

[Someone here]

@something_else I didn't mean it .and if I meant it .I take back my words .

Those are my own strugglings and problems with masturbation. And does not necessarily apply to everyone. 

Fair now? 

[Federico del pueblo]

@Someone here  yeah no worries, we're good ??

35 minutes ago, Someone here said:

You have to understand that there are thousands of young guys struggling with insane addiction to porn and masturbation. They need rewiring, not just about sex addiction but in all aspect of their life

Yeah, I agree here.

36 minutes ago, Someone here said:

sometimes I become self centered man, a narcist, I say things to get praise from other people

Of course, you handsome charismatic sigma male kinda guy ? 

Nah seriously, just keep improving and you're fine. Less forum posts, more grinding ok? 

[Someone here]

10 minutes ago, Federico del pueblo said:

Less forum posts

Can't promise you about that..I'm beyond addicted to this forum .

I guess one day one of the moderators will do what's necessary and ban me

[Federico del pueblo]

35 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Can't promise you about that..I'm beyond addicted to this forum .

Just have a rule that you do 10 push ups or 20 squats or 5 pull ups for each post you write

[Federico del pueblo]

17 minutes ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

I only touch it in the morning, when I'm washing it

That's a good habit! Good habits lead to a good life.

[Someone here]

30 minutes ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

while gorging yourself with popcorn.

Did you get this impression from my profile pic?