Slave morality?

[AtheisticNonduality]

5 hours ago, Nilsi said:

How is having sex or being embodied pre-rational? It surely depends on how developed you are sexually and kinesthetically or whatever. Even Nietzsche said "I am body, through and through"

Because it's a holon that exists before rationality does in development, because rationality is more complex and takes more time to occur rather than just simple instincts.

[Nilsi]

6 hours ago, something_else said:

I don't think anyone said it was trans-rational. It's more that social skills and relationships are a basic part of life that you need to have down and sorted out before you can move onto more advanced things in a healthy way. A well-rounded person knows how to let loose, not give a fuck, party, socialise and enjoy themselves now and then.

Being the philosophy-obsessed, anti-party, stick-up-ass dude is not what you should aim to be in life. But it's a very common way that many under-socialised people try to justify their poor social skills: "I wouldn't partake in all that dumb, trashy partying, I'm too busy contemplating the important things in life like philosophy"

Source: I used to do this and now I realise how dumb it is

What changed for you?

[Nilsi]

1 hour ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

Because it's a holon that exists before rationality does in development, because rationality is more complex and takes more time to occur rather than just simple instincts.

So is the neocortex. Whats your point? Actually you're the one who is commiting the pre/trans fallacy, falling to see that sex and relationships and body-being can, and do, exist everywhere on the spectrum from unconscious, 5 second, half-erect monkey fucking to mind-blowing, tantric god-communion.

[AtheisticNonduality]

@Nilsi The tantric god-communion might use a lower holon in its practice, yes.

[Leo Gura]

15 hours ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

Physically masturbating is better?

Yup

[Oeaohoo]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Yup

And there we have it! Modern degeneracy masquerading as smug enlightenment.

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Oeaohoo said:

And there we have it! Modern degeneracy masquerading as smug enlightenment.

Jerking off is older than human civilization.

[SonataAllegro]

On 5/25/2022 at 11:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

Skip all the bullshit and go straight for awakening. You don't need to be combing through Nietzsche. It's a distraction from the real work. Get to the real work!

@Leo Gura What do you think about studying philosopher's ideas as though you're studying animals at a zoo? i.e. not expecting to get a very profound understanding but still learning about what "very smart" people have thought throughout history and how that affects the minds of people today? I find it exhilarating and somewhat useful, even though it has nothing to do with truth. Or sex.

[Oeaohoo]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Jerking off is older than human civilization.

“In the beginning was the fap”! Evolution is just an alibi for people who have regressed to the level of apes.

I didn’t mean masturbation specifically but the idea that the physical is superior to the mental. After all, don’t you teach that everything is mind?