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Blog Post "designing A Conscious Robot"

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53 minutes ago, mostly harmless said:

Humans lose consciousness temporarily when sleeping for example. Also drugs allegedly have mind altering effects.  

This is a common belief. In sleep the mind shuts down and when it comes back up there is no memory of deep sleep. There is some of dreams. Its the mind that shuts down, not consciousness, it is not a thing, it does not have states, it is the witness of states. Witness never shuts, it cannot.

I never had any unconscious moment in my life. My direct experience is always of being aware. Unconsciousness is not possible. If you are unconscious, who knows that? If you know that then you are not unconscious. Others will tell you that you were unconscious during sleep, but they cannot know about your consciousness, its subjective, no one can see your state of consciousness, they just see an inactive body, not a dead consciousness. Shocking, isn't it?

Why no one thinks like this? Thousands of years of conditioning and beliefs. Thats why.

Similarly, drugs affect mind, not consciousness. Who is aware of altered mental state? Does consciousness change or contents of it change? Ask and know. (Perhaps this will help, I wrote about this issue in detail there.)

Yes, it will seem vague and confusing initially. People have deep beliefs, it takes time to realize things as they are. :)

IMO, you are correct in saying a cpu can't produce consciousness, but its not correct to say brain can. Both are objects, and objects can not produce consciousness. So what produces it? Nothing, it is fundamental. Consciousness produces everything, including cpus and brains and entire worlds and universes. Now, how do I know this? It doesn't matter how, you don't need to believe me. You already have tons of beliefs. Just try to experience it directly. Start self-enquiry. All the best :)


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17 hours ago, PureExp said:

Consciousness produces everything, including cpus and brains and entire worlds and universes. 

Why would consciousness produce anything then? Consciousness as you think of it could just exist in a vacuum? 

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@mostly harmless I have no idea. I don't think anyone knows, or if it is even possible to know.

Things just are. There are no satisfactory answers to "why", because you can always add a why to the answer you get and it can go on for infinity.

Try a good book on metaphysics, epistemology and ontology, you will find some theories.

I have some answers to "how", but its too heavy and I'm not sure if its true.


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On 6. Februar 2017 at 3:29 PM, see_on_see said:

Not machine in the sense that it's human-made. It's nature-made, but it's still a machine.

That's not a fact in actual reality. That is a categorization which is a mind-made layer. Categories and models are thinking tools.

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On 6. Februar 2017 at 3:29 PM, see_on_see said:

Because consciousness is infinite, and has to include everything to be infinite. Including manifestation of the world of form.

It’s not that consciousness “produces stuff”, everything is just there, always, eternally, simultaneously, as part of boundless infinity.

Your understanding of language and logic is too different from mine for me to have any meaningful discussion with you. But that's OK. :)

But I'd like to express that you insinuate meaning in my posts when you have no idea what I am communicating because your palette of possible meanings is too limited. 

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