Infinity of Gods. Do single God still Hold? How can there be infinite Gods?

[The0Self]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes

Infinity can recognize higher dimensions of infinity/itself. Cause that's what Infinity entails.

Yep 

Watching your video really resonated. I've had a similar experience. Wouldn't say it was as deep (or less deep or more deep) than yours.

At the higher levels of this stuff we're doing, even the distinction between universal and particular can dissolve beyond imagination.

That's how you know when solipsism isn't taking you in the wrong direction (as it probably very often can) -- when higher awakening coincides with deeper intimacy.

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, The0Self said:

That's how you know when solipsism isn't taking you in the wrong direction (as it probably very often can) -- when higher awakening coincides with deeper intimacy.

Crazy Love has to be there or it ain't right.

[Rigel]

[Loba]

 

Edited May 17, 2022 by Loba

[The0Self]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Crazy Love has to be there or it ain't right.

Definitely 

Moreover... It's not even like it's just a good thing to have, it's that literally: if it's not there, then you're simply not travelling in the direction pointed toward what you're authentically aiming for, and so the view involved with that is a trap and a distortion. That's a very foundational thing that I seemed to understand conceptually for a while, but couldn't understand what it actually meant and couldn't trust it fully (with impossibility of doubt) until authentically deep awakenings.

Just a suggestion for some general content and frameworks pertaining to this sort of beyond-awakening territory (if one chooses to continue practice even after awakenings with finality/totality to them, which I do recommend ); maybe for potential ideas/openings: Rob Burbea's work on "Soulmaking Dharma" (or Soul Making Dharma). If you haven't heard of it, you might be surprised how advanced it is. You can easily skip that particular manifestation (of this avenue you're exploring/expanding the subtlety of), but it's definitely congruent with beyond-awakening practice. I believe dharmaseed.org has all his talks on the subject. My intuition is it's not particularly the best thing for pre-awakening practice, but it's just a framework anyway, and obviously nothing that needs to be taken too seriously.

[Leo Gura]

To be clear, all my solipsistic awakenings were always permeated by profound Platonic Love.

The difficulty of integration usually comes the next day or next week once you're dealing with everyday life. Not in the moment of awakening itself.

[puporing]

@Leo Gura Got to hand it to you for being able to articulate all this in a clear, "objective-ish" way... if I were to describe my trips on this "mystical union" stuff it would come off as very personal/airy-fairy. My trip report would turn into a "love letter" to do it justice or some love song (and I know partially that's the filter I have.. and that it's "my creation"). They have mostly been quite personal and intense, and more difficult to share as a result.

Edited May 17, 2022 by puporing

[Leo Gura]

@puporing Many of my trips are too hard to communicate.

[TheAlchemist]

11 hours ago, zurew said:

The fucking sneaky and slimy nature of God/Reality. The structure cannot be pinned down, because in the process of pinning it down, it changes and adapts itself.

 

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You yourself are the object of your quest

...No one sees Him except Himself, no one reaches Him except Himself and no one knows Him except Himself. He knows Himself through Himself and He sees Himself by means of Himself. No one but He sees Him. His veil is His oneness since nothing veils Him other than Him. His own being veils Him. His being is concealed by His oneness without any condition.

No one other than He sees Him. No sent prophet, perfect saint or angel brought close knows Him. His prophet is He, His messenger is He, His message is He and His word is He. He sent Himself from Himself, through Himself to Himself. There is no intermediary or means other than Him. There is no difference between the sender, that which is sent and the one to whom it is sent. The very existence of the prophetic message is His existence. There is no existence to any other who could pass away, or have a name or be named...

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-Ibn 'Arabi, Balyani

 

Edited May 17, 2022 by TheAlchemist