Too much wasted time trying to cater to a stage orange audience

[Egodeathrow]

@Thought Art I disagree, I do not see soil as material nor do I see human life or even survival as being material, And you have never seen a flower grow in your life, It simply exists in the moment of you watching or smelling and you are mistaken to even label it a flower since it is not a perception or a thing but just a wake up call to the present moment like the colors and everything are existence without substance or reason, So even though you are looking at a so called flower you actually should be aware simultaneously that it is not a flower but just a figment of imagination. The soil as you are scooping it into the pot to plant it is what deceives you about the nature of flowers as a finished product, Because that causality is wrong, Flowers are not outsourced by anything except just what it is. Just saying it is material is an extra layer of labeling that really is just incorrect when you really are present looking at a flower. the flower is just made out of life/universe/god, Even the scooper of the soil should know that it isn't really soil he is scooping but just his own mind. So I don't buy into your reasoning because there is nothing convincing me that this room I am in is material and not just existence shining forth uncatalyzed by any sort of big bang or birth or start and finish its just my own mind and it is blatantly obvious because it is almost like the recognition of your body in the mirror it is just an inexplicable recognition of your own imagination powers to spawn these hallucinations like flowers or a human body or monkey etc...

[LSD-Rumi]

I like the wholistic approach that Leo takes, sometimes he is spiritual , sometimes he is materialistic, sometimes he is a saint, some times he is a playboy. The lesson here is to transcend and include.

[zurew]

 

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You are not above materialism until you fully awaken to yourself as God.

If thats the main goal, thats going to be really really tough. I assume you would specifically target everyone with psychedelics and making 'awakening with psychedelics'  more mainstream.

Do you work on a plan for each stage, or you more like working on a grand plan ,which can be applied for most people?

But one other thing that would also be really hard and tough and also cool to do is to really convert hardcore materialist minded people, who is not even open enough to the possibility that they could be wrong like Neil deGrasse Tyson type of people and convert them to at least stage green level. If those people would be converted, that would have a very large effect on all society.

Edited May 11, 2022 by zurew

[Egodeathrow]

@zurew it isn’t nearly as hard as your thinking of it as, If you don’t hold materialism in your mind it simply doesn’t exist, The raw content of your experience was never physical, so you need to be open to just dropping it on a whim because it is much more possible than you realize since it is just an idea in your head that you are literally projecting onto the experience, Try to do the most earthy things and see them as non-physical and unearthly,Something as simple as taking a step on the pavement or grass you have a whole narrative about how the core of the earth is pulling you down and there is no core in your experience so it is as light and airy fairy as any other belief therefore it can be dropped just the same

[zurew]

13 minutes ago, Egodeathrow said:

it isn’t nearly as hard as your thinking of it as, If you don’t hold materialism in your mind it simply doesn’t exist, The raw content of your experience was never physical, so you need to be open to just dropping it on a whim because it is much more possible than you realize since it is just an idea in your head that you are literally projecting onto the experience, Try to do the most earthy things and see them as non-physical and unearthly,Something as simple as taking a step on the pavement or grass you have a whole narrative about how the core of the earth is pulling you down and there is no core in your experience so it is as light and airy fairy as any other belief therefore it can be dropped just the same

I meant opening up some hardcore materialist people mind is a really tough challenge. If it would be easy, we wouldn't be here culturally where we are at now and science wouldn't be at a place where it is now.

But i agree that in some cases, the changing of peception doesn't seem hard, but in the vast majority of cases make people to awaken is really hard.

Opening up some people's mind who is materialistic but open minded enough to have conversations about God and about spirituality, and about the deconstruction of science is a good idea, imo.

 

[RMQualtrough]

No point talking to anyone else. Why would you repeat shit to people who have had insights? It's actually cringe hearing about "muh God" sometimes, because it feels like "I know......."