Pascal's wager

[Loba]

I would try to "show" them God through artwork.  And see if that doesn't pull them closer to God.  Art and music is God's language.  I'm not an atheist so the wager wouldn't really be fully applicable to me.

[Someone here]

@Loba what's your concept of God?  Do you believe in the religious/Christian God or the nondual /eastern God? 

Edited May 2, 2022 by Someone here

[Loba]

@Someone here I believe in a mashup of all of them - I think that people came about God in an infinite number of ways.  I believe in a God that aligns.

Once upon a time, I bought a Huichol yarn painting, a huge one - from a reputable and fair trade buyer.  The alignment of the fire (a salt lamp) and the green dot on the chair was accidental.  One day, I was smoking a bowl and just looked at it for a while, and then I "saw" it - and what felt like the being "take a seat" in his chair - the salt lamp light began to flicker - it never has before or again - and I saw the small green dot and then God said, "I am in the house.  I am as small an aligned as a green dot on the chair of this artwork."

So I learned to be observant of certain things that could reveal more.  And I think people who have found God who wrote the scriptures had the same experiences - but each one is unique for each person, so we fight over it.

I don't know if I believe I am the "whole" of God, as I have only experienced mine and everyone else's souls, and the God as an evolutionary feedback loop that wishes to witness itself within its own creations as itself - so I suppose my God predates both - but I don't know that for sure.

But, like I listen to a song - and I can hear God within it.  But my truth doesn't seem to ever translate no matter how I share it - so this is why I think it must be so personal, although it "feels" memetic in nature - like maybe someday through art I could give the experience of God to another - it would have to align just for them in the way this artwork did for me.

[Someone here]

21 minutes ago, Loba said:

@Someone here I believe in a mashup of all of them - I think that people came about God in an infinite number of ways.  I believe in a God that aligns.

Once upon a time, I bought a Huichol yarn painting, a huge one - from a reputable and fair trade buyer.  The alignment of the fire (a salt lamp) and the green dot on the chair was accidental.  One day, I was smoking a bowl and just looked at it for a while, and then I "saw" it - and what felt like the being "take a seat" in his chair - the salt lamp light began to flicker - it never has before or again - and I saw the small green dot and then God said, "I am in the house.  I am as small an aligned as a green dot on the chair of this artwork."

So I learned to be observant of certain things that could reveal more.  And I think people who have found God who wrote the scriptures had the same experiences - but each one is unique for each person, so we fight over it.

I don't know if I believe I am the "whole" of God, as I have only experienced mine and everyone else's souls, and the God as an evolutionary feedback loop that wishes to witness itself within its own creations as itself - so I suppose my God predates both - but I don't know that for sure.

But, like I listen to a song - and I can hear God within it.  But my truth doesn't seem to ever translate no matter how I share it - so this is why I think it must be so personal, although it "feels" memetic in nature - like maybe someday through art I could give the experience of God to another - it would have to align just for them in the way this artwork did for me.

I like it  

even though you insulted me in the dating section few days ago lol

But gotta admit it .I always enjoy your posts 

[Loba]

@Someone here I was drunk, I am a recovering alcoholic.  I don't even remember, because when I drink, I black out - I don't have a good radar to know when is enough so I go from completely sober to blackout without too much in between.  My family moved their... extensive and super accessible alcohol collection to a locked garage.

A good way to tell - if I'm acting very "out there aggressive" - I'm out of my mind gone because I don't act that way sober - ever.

I do it to try and manage the bodily affects of bipolar 1, in which I just feel a constant bodily aggravation, not even emotional, just the body feels tense, and I try to "mellow" myself out and it never works.  I am in the process of treatment for it, and am going on new meds and they should begin full effect in a few weeks - the right dose in a few months, until then I'm just grabbing at whatever substance I can to make this aggravation go away.

If mods see me acting that way - just warn me for a few days or something - it means I'm not "there" anymore.  My alcohol demon is a real cu**.

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, Loba said:

@Someone here I was drunk, I am a recovering alcoholic.  I don't even remember, because when I drink, I black out - I don't have a good radar to know when is enough so I go from completely sober to blackout without too much in between.  My family moved their... extensive and super accessible alcohol collection to a locked garage.

A good way to tell - if I'm acting very "out there aggressive" - I'm out of my mind gone because I don't act that way sober - ever.

I do it to try and manage the bodily affects of bipolar 1, in which I just feel a constant bodily aggravation, not even emotional, just the body feels tense, and I try to "mellow" myself out and it never works.  I am in the process of treatment for it, and am going on new meds and they should begin full effect in a few weeks - the right dose in a few months, until then I'm just grabbing at whatever substance I can to make this aggravation go away.

If mods see me acting that way - just warn me for a few days or something - it means I'm not "there" anymore.  My alcohol demon is a real cu**.

Posting while high or drunk is against the rules  

https://www.actualized.org/forum/guidelines/

[Loba]

@Carl-Richard I smoke weed every day.  It's a part of who I am.  

Also, go take your cult psychology elsewhere please, I don't have the time nor patience for it.  You traded one cult for the other, try genuine growth... for once.  

Edited May 3, 2022 by Loba

[Carl-Richard]

26 minutes ago, Loba said:

I smoke weed every day.  It's a part of who I am.  

That's fine by me. I've been there  It's more about avoiding wild rants and weird behavior than a specific drug.

[Loba]

@Carl-Richard I'm not weird on weed, just booze and well... it's all locked downstairs so no worries man.  Generally when smoking weed is when I'm in my journal contemplating - so if you find a really well thought out and decent post, it's probably because of weed.  I use it to deal with ADD, it makes my thought process slow down.

[gettoefl]

understand that belief is what mind takes for truth

so i believe in god is a necessary first step

belief however must be temporary provisional transcended

belief is the stage of being a child

what to do then?

find someone who doesn't believe but knows, listen to them and do what they did

pascal's wager is a good smack across the head to wake you up and get you serious

you have this one beautiful life ... are you going to awaken or stay asleep