Posted May 1, 2022 Been perusing the forum and Leo's videos and confused as to why some people think I'm imaginary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @MrTouchdown Actually you have understood it wrongly, because it is kind of trick topic. The point is that your experience is the only thing which is real and everything else is imaginary and you are all alone, period. Other people are not having any experience, becauase you are the only experiencer like in your "dreams at night". Who told you that you wouldn't be dreaming right NOW? -joNi- Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 I don't think you are imaginary though. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @Preety_India It doesn't matter, because you don't exist to him to begin with. You are just his imagination which is trying to convince having an experience to make him feel like there are "others". It doesn't make any impact when dream character would come talk to you and say that (s)he feels like you are real. First order is that the dream character is not real. After that anything (s)he says doesn't do anything. Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said: @MrTouchdown Actually you have understood it wrongly, because it is kind of trick topic. The point is that your experience is the only thing which is real and everything else is imaginary and you are all alone, period. Other people are not having any experience, becauase you are the only experiencer like in your "dreams at night". Who told you that you wouldn't be dreaming right NOW? -joNi- So you understand that you are experiencing my body right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) @MrTouchdown Point is that "others" are just like dream characters which aren't having any experience whatsover. If I say that I experience you or not or I think that you are real or not, it does't make any difference. It would only make an impact, if I would be real. Who told you that I am? Why would you think that there is something beyond your experience? Why do you think that you are not seeing the whole universe right HERE and NOW? Edited May 1, 2022 by Kksd74628 Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @Kksd74628 So straight up do you think I'm imaginary or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) @MrTouchdown You don't get it. First of all you know whenever you have an experience or not and that is all that matters to you. Second of all think this conversation like it would happen in your dream at night. Would it make any difference if the dream character thinks you are imaginary or not? Answer to this thing first so I can guide you to the answer. Edited May 1, 2022 by Kksd74628 Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @Kksd74628 No it doesn't matter what the imaginary being thinks. But why do you call yourself a dream character? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @MrTouchdown Why do you think that I am not dream character? Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 Just now, Kksd74628 said: @MrTouchdown Why do you think that I am not dream character? I don't believe one way or the other but I will say that if you think I'm imaginary then you're delusional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) @MrTouchdown You say that you don't believe one way or the another, but still you said that if I think you are imaginary then I am delusional. Me being delusional is only possible, if I would be real. This thing works as followed. There is only one dreamer and it is "you". NOW you experience being Mrtouchdown talking to Kksd74628 and no one is conscious, but you. Still you have to understand that whenever Kksd74628 reads the message then in that point Mrtouchdown is not conscious. The mistake that "many" people are doing is that they think that "our" experiences happen simultaneously. In reality it happens one dream at the time and that's why when I say that you are imaginary I am correct, because "I" am "you". It sounds weird from "Mrtouchdown's" perspective, but when you die physically and have experience from "other" pov you realize that you can actually say that and it makes sense, but still you are not talking to anyone else . Edited May 1, 2022 by Kksd74628 Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) @Kksd74628 when are you coming back to reality bro?? Edited May 1, 2022 by Someone here my mind is gone to a better place. I'm elevated ..going out of space . And I'm gone . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @Someone here To which reality? To reality where you assume lot of things without any proof? Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @Kksd74628 what's wrong with assuming stuff without any proof ? We can't be free from all assumptions . You assume that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. You assume quite a lot. But if you cancel all assumptions you will cease to function in this world. So don't even pretend that you are free from assumption. my mind is gone to a better place. I'm elevated ..going out of space . And I'm gone . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @Kksd74628 Okay so a few points and questions. 1. If there is one being then indeed only I am conscious. 2. If I write all of these posts then I write them in a very specific order. Now you claim the author of this post is unconscious which is false. Why do you think your past/future self is unconscious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @Someone here Why would I assume that the sun rises? I mean, if you want to live in the world where almost everything is assumption then give it a go. One goal of spirituality is stop assuming stupid things and trying to seek truth and, if you really had "god realization" then I guess you understand what I mean. Without you stopping to assume that you aren't god you can't ever realize it. Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 @MrTouchdown My past/future self is conscious when I am experiencing from its "pov", but not when I am experiencing something else. Isn't that the most clear thing? Think "other" people like your own recordings that you hear NOW. The one who recorded these words is not recording it when you are listening to it, because the recorder and the listener is the same one and can be only at one place at the time. Who told you that "others" are real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said: Why would I assume that the sun rises? To survive. Not just physically .but as an ego .as a narrative of a human living in a world . 5 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said: if you want to live in the world where almost everything is assumption then give it a go. That's the default. 5 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said: One goal of spirituality is stop assuming stupid things and trying to seek truth and, if you really had "god realization" then I guess you understand what I mean. But you must know where to stop and revert back to assumptions. You see ..the assumption that you should be questioning assumptions is Itself an assumption, which is not questioned . 7 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said: Without you stopping to assume that you aren't god you can't ever realize it. Why do you think this assumption (that you are not God) exists in the first place? my mind is gone to a better place. I'm elevated ..going out of space . And I'm gone . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, MrTouchdown said: think I'm imaginary? You answered yourself. The thinking is the imagination. It's not anything more than that. Foolish until proven other-wise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
