Molly is a psychedelic?

[Antor8188]

@Leo Gura do you think mdma is a psychedelic?

[Leo Gura]

Technically no. But closely related.

[Carl-Richard]

Molly is to psychedelics what chocolate is to coffee.

[Batman]

Depends how you define 'Psychedelic'. There is no doubt that it affects the mind and dramatically alters your experience. However, it isn't psychedelic in the sense that it usually does not provoke the mind framework for reality (who or what you are). It causes a positive emotional abundance which puts you in a state of emotional openness and freedom from social relations ("opens your heart").

For me, a high dose of MDMA can get "psychedelic" in the sense that all distinctions melt - including the sense of being a self - and love is felt towards everything. 

[The0Self]

Not quite, but it can induce psychedelic-related states, ime.

[Vincent S]

No, but she can be magical <3

[JayT79]

You can hallucinate on it if you take too many within a short amount of time.

[aurum]

It’s powerful regardless of what you want to call it. Taking mdma made me feel love, whole and complete for one of the first times in my life.

In a sense I suppose that makes it dangerous. You might think that state was only achievable with mdma, and of course it’s not. But I personally never abused it. It really just made me realize how much better I could feel about life.

[The0Self]

11 hours ago, aurum said:

It’s powerful regardless of what you want to call it. Taking mdma made me feel love, whole and complete for one of the first times in my life.

In a sense I suppose that makes it dangerous. You might think that state was only achievable with mdma, and of course it’s not. But I personally never abused it. It really just made me realize how much better I could feel about life.

It was quite a profound experience for me as well. Later when I first entered jhana, I immediately recognized: the last time I felt almost precisely this way was on MDMA. So yeah it's definitely achievable without drugs, but drugs are a nice reference point to have -- guess it's not really that useful until you can manifest it yourself and then remember the drug introduced you to it, in a sense.