Tips for a healthy masturbation (for males ,)

[Someone here]

13 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

How you feel after you burst?

I feel like shit  like a complete loser. 

Instead of fucking a real woman like a real man..I just fucked my hand .

Seriously bro..is that the best thing you could be doing with your life ? 

You are a grown ass man right now .you ain't a little kid anymore. Masturbation is for teens and boys . Real men fuck pussy. 

That's how I see it .

As far as "high quality" Masturbation, I still don't know what you're talk.  You didn't explain how is that done .

[Someone here]

Although i don't judge you .you are free to do whatever you want .

But apparently we have conflicting worldviews.

[Thought Art]

@Someone here It’s okay. I think you are operating with a different programming than me. My sexuality is both private and with partner and they are both holy. 
 

I share with you videos speaking of Taoist masturbation practice but you don’t watch. 
 

I think I have said all I can. I wish you well.

Whatever you do, lose the shame. Or don’t. Just be you ?

Real Men blossom, and express their sexuality how they see fit regardless of the opinion of others.

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

How can you make love to a women, when you are ashamed of making love to yourself? 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Someone here]

13 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

I share with you videos speaking of Taoist masturbation practice but you don’t watch

I will try to watch. Thanks for recommendation .

10 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

How can you make love to a women, when you are ashamed of making love to yourself? 

Here's the whole problem.  You aren't supposed to make love with yourself. That means you are lonely and sexually suppressed. You are  supposed to make love to a partner. And that's what is going to satisfy you both sexually and emotionally.

[Thought Art]

@Someone here No. it doesn’t mean that. I’ve been having sex since I was 17…. Boat loads of it. Sex with different people, blow jobs, hook ups, etc… all amazing. Even then I would masturbate. 
 

You are shaming something which need not be shamed. Make love to yourself and to others.

You can write a letter out of fear, or write a letter out of love.

You can masturbate because you arr suppressed. You can masturbate to flourish and blossom. 
 

Become a lover. Not just a pussy fucker. 
 

Currently, I am working deeply on my sexuality. Meeting others, dating but also developing more self love. This means developing my sexual health through masturbation.

You don’t NEED to masturbate… but if you shame and guilt yourself because you don’t meet your fabricated ideals… you steal your joy needlessly.

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

I’ve been having sex since I was 17…. Boat loads of it. Sex with different people, blow jobs, hook ups, etc… all amazing. Even then I would masturbate. 

Then what's the need for masturbation? 

[Thought Art]

@Someone here What’s the need for anything. 
 

Humans are sexual beings. I like sex. Don’t you?

Sexuailty need not be a burden you must carry only to unload into a pussy so you can feel good about yourself.

Anyway, I get that you just wanna have sex and not masturbate given your current model and shame complexes. 
 

Nothing is lost from masturbation, if you are healthy and do it in a quality way.
 

I have a friend from India who was also afraid of masturbation. He was in his early thirties and never pulled back the skin on his penis. Because of this it was crooked and odd. There years of dead skin piled under it. He cleans his penis properly for the first time when he was in his thirties. 
 

If you learn to masturbate in a high quality way, you may be a better lover. 
 

This porno, rush to climax and hide in shame is not right. 
 

No woman wants a penis that is dirty and from a man who doesn’t know himself sexually. 
 

Enjoy your flower my friends. 
 

Let go of this burden of shame. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Someone here]

19 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Anyway, I get that you just wanna have sex and not masturbate given your current model and shame complexes. 
 

I don't have, "shame complex " trust me dude .

I call it growing up and becoming a real man .  Do you think an alpha 10 guy masturbates all the time or getting laid and banging beautiful chicks ?

It does boil down to your standards and your manhood and what you settle for .

If you settle for masturbation..fine ..go with it ..but understand that it has negative consequences on the long term .

 

[Thought Art]

18 minutes ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

@Thought Art So you mean to tell me there's no other way of washing/exposing the penis, other than masturbation? Ever heard of applying water/shampoo/soap?

Obviously, if you can't even pull the skin down your dick, then you need to start exercising it, so you're able to. That doesn't mean we should all be jerking it contantly now.

No…. That is to miss my entire point here. 
 

Get to know your genitals instead of creating constructs of shame. 

It was an example. Are you kidding me? 
 

Don’t put words in my mouth and don’t misconstrue what I’m saying into these simplistic “Ever heard of soap instead of jerking off” 

Dont treat me like I’m mentally retarded. Because it makes you come off that way. 
 

I feel amazed you would even ask me that?

“You mean there’s no way to clean your car instead of driving it in a rainstorm?”

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

8 minutes ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

@Thought Art Btw, women don't give a fuck about your masturbation habits. They honestly couldn't care less. So for you to imply, that masturbating will make you a better lover...?‍♂️

I'm done with you, and with this topic

I never said that women would make interest in your masturbation habits. 
 

But, your ability to know yourself sexually and to have the right muscles built up may make a difference in bed. 
 

if all you do is sprint when you jerk off then you will cum fast

if you never work down the sensitivity of the penis you will cum too fast 

mid you don’t explore and massage your penis you may not know it well enough to keep it clean and healthy..

one must sharpen the knife 

etc…

Im not saying you brag about your habits. Masturbation making you a better lover is something you need to contemplate, read, research as I have done and am doing.
 

Why are you so intellectually dishonest with me?

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Realms of Wonder]

This whole thread is funny to watch unfold.

 

people sharing perspectives, trying to understand the other

 

Others taking one or two sentences out of context and demonizing that limited part of the perspective given.

 

And..

 

People asking a question, not to understand, but just to tell the other, nope, I am right, and you are wrong! 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Realms of Wonder

[Thought Art]

5 minutes ago, Realms of Wonder said:

This whole thread is funny to watch unfold.

 

people sharing perspectives, trying to understand the other

 

Others taking one or two sentences out of context and demonizing that limited part of the perspective given.

 

And..

 

People asking a question, not to understand, but just to tell the other, nope, I am right, and you are wrong! 

It’s not a right or wrong thing

but, I am trying to point at subtle things from my perspective that I think may be more holistic in nature 

[Someone here]

15 minutes ago, Realms of Wonder said:

This whole thread is funny to watch unfold.

 

people sharing perspectives, trying to understand the other

 

Others taking one or two sentences out of context and demonizing that limited part of the perspective given.

 

And..

 

People asking a question, not to understand, but just to tell the other, nope, I am right, and you are wrong! 

I'm just trying to say its better to not masturbate at all and to save that energy for your romantic partner  ...but if you are going to masturbate like what most guys do ..do it by following those rules to make it more healthy and less damaging. 

That's the OP in a nutshell. 

[Thought Art]

13 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I'm just trying to say its better to not masturbate at all and to save that energy for your romantic partner  ...but if you are going to masturbate like what most guys do ..do it by following those rules to make it more healthy and less damaging. 

That's the OP in a nutshell. 

And I’m saying that’s way to simplistic and what your doing is also damaging.

I see your opinion. But there is more than “Don’t do it it’s bad” or so.

As if it was a finite resource. Though I do agree that ejaculation may be avoided but orgasm and self touch can be done and practiced 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Realms of Wonder]

33 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

It’s not a right or wrong thing

but, I am trying to point at subtle things from my perspective that I think may be more holistic in nature 

And its much appreciated.

 

When I began no-fap/no porn, I was super dogmatic about it, lots of black and white statements, beliefs and so on.. this forum has actually help me see how different it is for different people, how it may actually be fine, or even beneficial to some! so thank you for sharing your perspective  

[Thought Art]

6 minutes ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

Realistically, you get better at sex by... having sex. A lots of it. You don't really get substantially better at something, by doing another thing.

You may play with your penis however, and in whatever way you want, but you'll still likely cum in 1-5 minutes during your first sex. What you're claiming is correct, but it only helps to a point (btw, I know a lot of these methods, I've read Mantak Chia, etc. I may not know as much as you in this given field, but I still know a lot).

And really, the number one problem for guys is GETTING sex. That's the number one problem. It doesn't matter how good you are with your penis, if woman doesn't select you to have sex with her in the first place (I don't mean that literaly, it's a figure of speech - hope you get it).

Alright, NOW I'm done?

Yes, I value Holistic thinking.

Discussing one area, aspect or chapter of sexuality doesn’t you you throw out the rest.

[Realms of Wonder]

25 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I'm just trying to say its better to not masturbate at all and to save that energy for your romantic partner  ...but if you are going to masturbate like what most guys do ..do it by following those rules to make it more healthy and less damaging. 

That's the OP in a nutshell. 

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, who are you to say? Each person is different. While I do agree with you from my point of view, my life HAS improved as I healed my addiction to PMO, and cut it completely from my life. But that doesn't mean its best for everyone.

[Thought Art]

@Realms of Wonder PMO?

Again, I’m not advocating for watching porn or chronically ejaculating. 
 

Im advocating for:

1. Healthy masturbation practice such as toaist sexual energy, sexual health and multiple orgasm

2. A shame free sexual relationship with yourself 

3. A healthy balanced relationship to porn (this may mean no porn for you)

4. A personalized approach for what you find works for you

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Someone here]

13 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

And I’m saying that’s way to simplistic and what your doing is also damaging.

I see your opinion. But there is more than “Don’t do it it’s bad” or so.

As if it was a finite resource. Though I do agree that ejaculation may be avoided but orgasm and self touch can be done and practiced 

Actually it might very well be a finite resource. 

In Hinduism they belive each chakra in your body contains only so much of energy. And that of course applies to your root Chakra or your sex center. 

It's believed that it contains life force (they call it virya) and its In fact limited. 

Now ..there is not much scientific evidence for that but from my own direct experience I feel that it's true .I had so much  sexual energy 4-5 years ago when I was a teenager..but now after years of masturbating I feel less horny. 

Now I understand that you never run out of semen ..but there is no point in wasting it either. Use it to connect with a real partner or simply save it and practice sexual transmutaion like yoga and whatnot .