Galyna

Nothingness is NOT a Void, my biggest realization

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Why do you think that nothingness is just a void, or a pure black space with nothing in there? This is how a human being imagines “nothing”. This is not the case. Notice, it’s still something. You are not a human being; this is how it your “understanding” starts. I will use the language here just to explain the concept. However, you cannot fathom it by the means of language.

When the observer takes a back seat in consciousness, and just observes the reality, the self of sense drowns in void, disappears. Try not to put labels and describe what you see. Language is not needed. What you will discover soon is that the stencil, or what you call individualized personality, will cease to exist. When there is no self, there is no one to register the reality. That’s a key moment. There is no cognition and description of what you see, smell, or hear. You do not need to close your eyes to think yourself out of reality, you actually do not even need to meditate for this. All you need to do is to stop naming the objects and phenomena you see, stop creating the meaning of the experience. When this happens, experience is still there without the description, but at the same time it is not there either. So, we cannot call it “experience”. However, when there is no observer, you cannot register the reality. Drop the observer that your mind creates to lurk you into so-called Enlightenment! This is a trick it plays with itself to never let "you" go.

This is how the illusion (maya) of the solid world has been creating “you” for a long time. It’s been creating “you” through the stencil of the perceiver and the perception. By returning back into the seat of consciousness, when you drop all the notions, language, descriptions, you are disappearing. You do not need to close your eyes for this to happen, because even with the eyes closed, you mind still separates and divides between inner and outer, thoughts and void, cognition, feelings, and emotions. “You” are still there!  Don’t stop your thought process, no need even for that, let it be there. You do not know yet the true meaning behind the objects that you see. You really do not know who you are, everything that you know comes from language (reasoning, prior knowledge, and beliefs). What if you do not have language, are you still your body or the holistic experience? Are you still separating and dividing between “mine” and “not mine”? No, when you drop the language and knowledge, all you’ll get left with is a holistic experience, One, picture that contains everything, and your body is just another object on that canvas. You are not in your body. By slowly putting your attention back on awareness, by dropping even that!!! you begin to experience nothingness. Who said that nothing is empty? Actually, nothingness can contain all the elements of perceptions: sound and color, tactile senses. This is how illusion has been created, illusion that there is something there, when in fact there is not. You are walking on the bridge between dualities without realizing that wholeness is couched within nothingness, and nothingness contains and gives birth to everything. How? By giving experience some description. It is very simple, by reasoning…

It does not mean that everything appears into Being from void, it’s already there: nothing and everything, non-dual infinite potential. What it means that by changing the perception, you can realize, but only post factum, that everything is nothing. It only appears as is colors, sounds, senses, but everything is nothing in its core, and vice versa. When you drop the stencil of the perceiver and start having the experience of Being/Totality, without any cognition and linguistic recognitions. Who is there to acknowledge the factuality? Nobody right, nobody could say there is a tree, because “you” as the perceiver is NOT there. What is there then? It cannot be communicated, that is the trick…

Does it mean that the light was off, and everything zoomed in into the black dot? No. We do not need to switch the light off for existence to become nothing. All you need to do is to “think your way out” of existence as a human being. When there is no you, there is no world. Because “world” is just the linguistic description of your mind. There is no such thing as world, it is all mental construct for you to see the plausible reality. Once you break the meaning of everything, and drop all the notions, reality as know you, will cease to exist because you will take your illusory self out of the equation. Death is not real; this is literally how you die. Time only exists as a descriptive mechanism to make sense of the continuum from moment to moment, or a motion. Again, when you do not describe the motion, you do not have time. Contraction and dilation of time only happens in your mind.

Hope the reader will understand my point.

Thanks for your time and attention.

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"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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@Galyna Still appearances of color, shapes etc are still imagination of nothingness. 

Infinite consciousness is nothing in technical sense. This infinite consciousness dreams up forms.

There is nothing in reality. All forms and colors are imaginery.

Edited by machiavelli

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Once you collapse the duality between relative and absolute, the subtle notion of the infinite and finite disappears.

The relative is as real as the absolute.
The ego is as real as infinity. 
Red is as red as nothingness.
Free will is as real as determinism.
"You" are both real and a illusion.

Reality is permanently co-creating itself, through itself, with itself. 

 

Edited by undeather

MD. Internal medicine/gastroenterology - Evidence based integral health approaches

"Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
- Rainer Maria Rilke

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@Galyna 

Good. Now try conveying the same again, but this time in a single pithy sentence.


Apparently.

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1 hour ago, machiavelli said:

@Galyna Still appearances of color, shapes etc are still imagination of nothingness. 

Infinite consciousness is nothing in technical sense. This infinite consciousness dreams up forms.

There is nothing in reality. All forms and colors are imaginery.

this is exactly what I am saying here:

 

This is how the illusion (maya) of the solid world has been creating “you” for a long time. It’s been creating “you” through the stencil of the perceiver and the perception. 


"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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1 hour ago, machiavelli said:

Infinite consciousness is nothing in technical sense. This infinite consciousness dreams up forms.

Isn't what I am saying here: What it means that by changing the perception, you can realize, but only post factum, that everything is nothing. It only appears as is colors, sounds, senses, but everything is nothing in its core, and vice versa. ????

 

Somehow we need to use the language to contrast between two notions.

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"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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50 minutes ago, axiom said:

@Galyna 

Good. Now try conveying the same again, but this time in a single pithy sentence.

yep, I agree, too lengthy. I need to delete some sentences. People won't read such a long text. But it is hard to do, LOL...it is my creation. :$

"Brevity is the soul of wit" - W.S.

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57 minutes ago, undeather said:

Once you collapse the duality between relative and absolute, the subtle notion of the infinite and finite disappears.

The relative is as real as the absolute.
The ego is as real as infinity. 
Red is as red as nothingness.
Free will is as real as determinism.
"You" are both real and a illusion.

Reality is permanently co-creating itself, through itself, with itself. 

 

Yes, it is just a game, and a word game also....:D

We cannot go there with language, there is a huge stop sign and you'll have to leave everything behind. The trick is you have to leave yourself!

The Truth cannot be communicated, I realize it. 

Thank you, my friend! 


"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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1 hour ago, Galyna said:

Isn't what I am saying here: What it means that by changing the perception, you can realize, but only post factum, that everything is nothing. It only appears as is colors, sounds, senses, but everything is nothing in its core, and vice versa. ????

 

Somehow we need to use the language to contrast between two notions.

@Galyna Yes, the perception of visual field is nothingness in actuality. But if you think a form which exist independent of mind's imagination. This is not possible.

Consciousness is nothingness. And consciousness is prior to form.

No form exist without imagination by infinite mind or infinite consciousness.

All forms, colors, sensations etc are imagined by nothingness. Nothingness is prior.

FORM IS SECONDARY PHENOMENON.

You can say form is nothingness but it is still imagined and held in infinite mind which technically is nothing. No color, No shape, Nothing.

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21 minutes ago, machiavelli said:

@Galyna Yes, the perception of visual field is nothingness in actuality. But if you think a form which exist independent of mind's imagination. This is not possible.

Consciousness is nothingness. And consciousness is prior to form.

No form exist without imagination by infinite mind or infinite consciousness.

All forms, colors, sensations etc are imagined by nothingness. Nothingness is prior.

FORM IS SECONDARY PHENOMENON.

You can say form is nothingness but it is still imagined and held in infinite mind which technically is nothing. No color, No shape, Nothing.

Thanks, I agree :) 

Notice please that nothingness is not real "thing", and is only a concept, polarity that minds create to oppose to something. 


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Nothingness=Everything

Everything is Love.

You are Awareness.

Edited by Zeroguy

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2 minutes ago, Zeroguy said:

Everything is Love.

....and even that is nothing ;)

2 minutes ago, Zeroguy said:

You are Awareness.

:) just Awareness, without "you"....


"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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@machiavelli

Reality isn't structured with "prior than" or "secondary".

Everything is on the same level, no dualties. 

Nothing = Something/Everything 

Appearances are not imagined by a mind. That is dualistic. Mind is imagination. 

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8 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

@machiavelli

Reality isn't structured with "prior than" or "secondary".

Everything is on the same level, no dualties. 

Nothing = Something/Everything 

Appearances are not imagined by a mind. That is dualistic. Mind is imagination. 

Absolutely agree, everything is factual, no layers....


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On 2022-04-23 at 5:55 PM, Galyna said:

:) just Awareness, without "you"....

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And even that is saying to much. ?

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11 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

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And even that is saying to much. ?

?lol, absolutely….


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Inspiring reading. we call nothing the absence of contrast, of differentiation between one thing or another. but it is a wrong word. there is always something, existence. the true nothing would be non-existence, and that does not exist. and obviously you can't experience it. 

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18 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Inspiring reading. we call nothing the absence of contrast, of differentiation between one thing or another. but it is a wrong word. there is always something, existence. the true nothing would be non-existence, and that does not exist. and obviously you can't experience it. 

Thanks :)

I just got another realization: nothing hides behind perception, LOL B|

when there is no perception, there isn't such thing as "something or nothing".

 


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