Truth is not an EQUATION

[Galyna]

4 minutes ago, A Fellow Lighter said:

I'm not leaning on the past when I speak of evolution, I'm leaning on its ever present and evident truth. 

Got you, I thought you meant the other evolution. Great point. Totally agree! 

[A Fellow Lighter]

3 hours ago, ZzzleepingBear said:

How would you then distinguish between truth and falsity then, if they where not both part of the same equation?

 

You can't claim something to be absolute, without the notion of the parts that it contains. 

Your claim to truth as absolute must be based on the distinguishing of what is true and false. Just as light and darkness goes together.

Truth + Falsity = Absolute. That makes truth and falsity same same but different, as being the totality of what is.

Simple.. Truth is Evident.. Falsity is, by definition, that which is not evident. Anything that is evident is inherently truth, thus everything that is is truth, thusly.. truth is absolute. You cannot get around it, it is the is.

Understand that truth itself is not a claim, it is prior all that philosophical squabble.

[Chrisd]

You're saying I can't impart truth to my belief systems or logic. Isn't this a matter of choice? I can choose logic or belief systems to be my truth.

[A Fellow Lighter]

19 minutes ago, Galyna said:

Got you, I thought you meant the other evolution. Great point. Totally agree! 

Then do you also see how your logic is being forged even in this present moment? Every time you think your logic is being shaped and reshaped. The shape that proves most useful will remain for quite some time until proven futile, then it will reshape again. Experience determines this. The logic you have now isn't the same logic you had yesterday or ten to twenty years ago as a kid. Neither is it the same logic did the human-consciousness have aeons ago, as consciousness evolves so does our patterns of thinking.

[A Fellow Lighter]

3 minutes ago, Chrisd said:

You're saying I can't impart truth to my belief systems or logic. Isn't this a matter of choice? I can choose logic or belief systems to be my truth.

Beliefs are beliefs. And truth is truth. Either you awaken or you don't, this truth will make itself evident in your vibration, my friend, which is the way you live your life.

You're familiar with the old saying: life is a test. What do you suppose it is that is being tested? It is your truth.. here, we can only live our truths, thus.. freewill is law, for one only ever is and does what s/he is willing to be and do. This is Truth. There's no way around it. So, for instance, if you believe that love is God.. but have not truly awakened to it.. then rest assured that this truth will reveal itself in the way you live your life.

Truth is not a matter of choice. It does not need you.. it is you who needs it. Whether you choose it or your logic over it, this does certainly nothing to the truth. Learn the truth, don't learn the truth.. doesn't matter, it's still there.. forever.

[ZzzleepingBear]

11 hours ago, A Fellow Lighter said:

Simple.. Truth is Evident.. Falsity is, by definition, that which is not evident. Anything that is evident is inherently truth, thus everything that is is truth, thusly.. truth is absolute. You cannot get around it, it is the is.

Understand that truth itself is not a claim, it is prior all that philosophical squabble.

I agree with your overall take, especially the last sentence, that's a home run.

How ever, the difference of what we are talking about as it seems, is that what I talk about when I say that truth is part of the equation. Is truth in a context to why we refer to truth as truth to begin with. 

And If I understand you right, you seem to stress the importance of truth directly as is, without the interest in contextualize understanding around it.

All in all, I may be picky in my take. And we will probably keep speaking past eachother since we are in two different lanes here it seems. I agree with your take, but I will also say that I think context are adding depth to a disscusion if talking about truth, compared when speaking about what truth is.

So speaking of truth and speaking about, truth. Is what seems to be going on, and that's fine.