Bruins8000

Aging (old age)

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So if ultimately time doesn’t exist then how do we explain aging? Aging seems to be a byproduct of linear time. Obviously it would be better if humans and animals didn’t have to deal with the downsides of growing old- so why does aging happen?
 

Should we view old age and being 23 for instance as opposites? Or are they not truly opposites?

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Because you are finite, existing in a dream with relative constraints such as ‘linear time’ ‘biology’ and ‘aging’. I think the aging process is a feature not a glitch because you are here to live a human life, and to experience the difference stages of life which includes aging. ‘You’ are imaging these finite constraints. Time is something you imagine. It makes no sense from within the dream. 
 

You are here to live for awhile, and then to die to continue on with other dreams. IMO…

You are currently a human, biological and constrained by the will of the infinite mind to be so. This is just the nature of this dream. It’s a journey.

It’s almost foolish to ask “Well if this eternal principle is the case (example: there is no such thing as time, or time is created/ relative) then why the experience of time as a human in this temporal plane of existence. The temporal exists only as a projection from the eternal ‘Now’.
 

Being and “I am” is eternal. All the finite relative aspects of a dream are almost arbitrary. 

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15 minutes ago, Bruins8000 said:

time doesn’t exist

How did you arrive at this?


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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@Carl-Richard in the ultimate sense THIS is non-dual. Separating an idea of time out from the whole would be creating a boundary and duality. Obviously in a relative sense we utilize the idea of time.

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10 minutes ago, Bruins8000 said:

Separating an idea of time out from the whole would be creating a boundary and duality.

Same with aging. But that doesn't mean aging won't affect your physical body.


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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3 minutes ago, Bruins8000 said:

@Carl-Richard in the ultimate sense THIS is non-dual. Separating an idea of time out from the whole would be creating a boundary and duality. Obviously in a relative sense we utilize the idea of time.

In a nutshell: aging is only real when time is real.

Aging is a relative and conceptual observation of the change the occurs in life forms, over time. Time is no other than the measurement of change in conditions. Your "young self" can only exist in relation to your "old self" if you hold time to be real. Right now, the appearance of your self is what it is. It may only seem old if you hold in your mind that there some time where you were young. However, when you "were" young, did the condition that you regard as "young" appeared in the past? No, it appeared in the Now. Now, when you seem to appear old, it still is Now. 

If you would erase every memory you hold of your appearance, and look in the mirror, could you determine that you aged? No, because you would have no conceptual recollection of the perception of a "past" self, and so any comparison to a "past" self would not be possible. Any comparison between what appears Now and what appeared in the "past" can only exist when time is believed to be real. 

I'm sorry that this is not clear enough, the only way to this is to become conscious that time is a construct within the Now. We create this conceptual framework of time for our reality so we can survive. In other words, we create the illusion of time so we can have references for our current perceptions. It is an essential component in the survival of the human life form. 

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Ageing is only apparently real when time is apparently real.

Time is only apparently real when you are apparently real.

You are only apparently real when you notice yourself.


Apparently.

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