The 5-MeO-DMT Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

Hm, kind of looks like one of my questions slipped through the cracks... so let me just ask again:

Is there any way to tell when the freebase has dissolved, i.e. is there a visible change in the substance during the conversion with vinegar that I should watch out for?

Freebase should fully dissolve in a few drops of vinegar if you stir it around a lot and break up the clumps.

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

@Leo Gura Okay, so you mean "fully dissolve" as in there will be no powder left at all, only liquid?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

@Leo Gura Okay, so you mean "fully dissolve" as in there will be no powder left at all, only liquid?

Yes.

Although it makes no difference if you are plugging it whether it's dissolved or not. I've plugged plenty of chemicals which refused to dissolve at all in anything.

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

@Leo Gura Amazing, thanks!

[Plip]

Hey guys, so I did 5meo yesterday and am puzzled as to how powerful my experience was considering the small dose that I took....I had some kratom like 3 hours before taking it, and did one round of 40 breaths of the Wim Hof method breathing technique. I weighed out what registered as 5mg on my scale and seeing as I was on my own taking it for the first time I decided to go even lower so I took off a little bit, all in all I was left with what should have been 3-4mg if my scales measured the dose accurately (Perhaps I should have weighed 20 or so and divided I don't know). Anyway after the breathwork I took the hit and it began to kick in half way through my inhale to the point where I was nervous to even hold it in for too long, ended up exhaling much sooner than I usually do..

I took 8mg a few weeks back with a shaman as my starter dose and worked up to 14, then 16mg and I can safely say that this 3-4mg felt stronger than my 8mg dose. I took the kratom to help ease my anxiety as was feeling edgy and really wouldn't have had the opportunity to do this again for another few weeks, so figured I would chance it. Have combined with other psychedelics in the past with no real issues only maybe a dampening of effects. It didn't cause any nausea, I definitely noticed the serotonergic effects of both synergizing with one another, it really knocked the orgasmic bliss factor up a notch but had me begin to worry a bit when the effects were still going strong after 40 or so minutes. I eventually began to come down and was finally able to put down the pipe lol, feeling good since but confused... Not sure what caused this, possible inaccurate dosing, the breathwork, the kratom, the sensitivity to substances that 5meo induces OR a combination, who knows... I just don't know how to approach my dosing in the future. 

Anyway I thought I'd contribute with that, would be great to hear some thoughts on it:) Also, I definitely feel that I am experience some ego backlash today in the form of lust and anger. Felt little bit of an urge to look at some porn for the first time in a while earlier and also found myself getting very frustrated with some people in my life who have little self-awareness, to put it kindly...you know the kind who like to point the finger but are completely incapable of taking any criticism themselves?? Haha, anyway, it could also just be that I am feeling a bit drained but would love to know how you guys deal with this kind of thing, is it just a matter of observing it arise and it will dissipate...? I won't be looking at any porn but it has suckered me in the past after some of my psychedelic experiences:( 

 

Edited June 17, 2020 by Plip

[Leo Gura]

@Plip That's why when you run a scientific experiment you should only change one variable at a time.

Now you have to test it again while controlling all the other variables.

5-MeO is super potent by itself. Stop mixing it with other shit.

[Plip]

@Leo GuraAmen, lesson learned!

[Plip]

My youngest brother is almost 19 and is interested in exploring 5meo. He is going to university soon to study astro physics and is just next level intelligent. I would love for him to experience what I have experienced but I also know from experience there's a time for doing these things and maybe it is not his time yet considering he is so young.. I just don't think there are many physicists out there who are spiritually awake, if I had his brains I would love to help try pioneer the way for a paradigm shift within science. Would it be better to do 5meo and know or have an idea about how the universe REALLY works and then knowing this go and try change shit up or influence people who can do such things...I'm probably underestimating things but would be nice to hear some thoughts on this also....

[Username]

Another trip. 30 mg rectally, 18 hours fasting (ate some bad chocolate just before a trip) and empty bowels.

Again trip wasn't very profound. What I find interesting is that LSD goes from outside to inside. 5 Meo DMT goes from opposite direction - every cell seems to be unstable. Oral 1P LSD (even 100 ug taken orally) was more profound but less intense. On 5 Meo DMT I "lost everything", everything was morphing, on LSD it's easier to function normally. My ego was still quite active or possibly it was just trying to "keep breathing". 

I guess it's time for 40 mg.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Username

[Javfly33]

25 minutes ago, Username said:

Another trip. 30 ug rectally, 18 hours fasting (ate some bad chocolate just before a trip) and empty bowels.

I guess it's time for 40 ug.

It's milligrams! Not micrograms! ?

[Username]

  Again  I noticed since I started using psychodelics I became less detail oriented and less picky about this kind of stuff.

[outlandish]

31 minutes ago, Username said:

  Again  I noticed since I started using psychodelics I became less detail oriented and less picky about this kind of stuff.

Details are very important when it comes to dosages! Don't fuck around in this department, no matter how wavy you let yourself get.

On 6/20/2020 at 5:21 AM, Plip said:

My youngest brother is almost 19 and is interested in exploring 5meo. He is going to university soon to study astro physics and is just next level intelligent. I would love for him to experience what I have experienced but I also know from experience there's a time for doing these things and maybe it is not his time yet considering he is so young.. I just don't think there are many physicists out there who are spiritually awake, if I had his brains I would love to help try pioneer the way for a paradigm shift within science. Would it be better to do 5meo and know or have an idea about how the universe REALLY works and then knowing this go and try change shit up or influence people who can do such things...I'm probably underestimating things but would be nice to hear some thoughts on this also....

Seems too young to me to take 5-MeO-DMT. His brain is already plastic enough at this age. I think it is not wise to jump into one of the most hardcore psychedelics right off the bat at such a young age, it is something he could come back to later for sure. If he was interested in psychedelics, I think it would be better to introduce him to something more standard like mushrooms, LSD, or something very easy/mild like 2C-B.

Just my 2c, it's hard to know exactly in any situation, let alone from a few words on a screen. In the end, he is the judge. But I would just remember, there's no rush.

[Username]

Today I did 40 mg - four yellow scoops (the same that Leo uses in his instruction). 14 hours fasting, empty bowels and rectal administration. 0,4 ml of liquid.

I had short peak around 20 minutes mark. Peak lasted for about 10 minutes. It was pleasant but quite weak. It wasn't even noticeably stronger than 30 mg. What did I wrong? I used some oil to lube the syringe - I have no idea if it can affect the absorption. It wasn't even comparable to LSD it terms of intensity. Huge disappointment

Edited July 2, 2020 by Username

[Username]

One hour later I went to toilet again (I stayed there for quite a long time). So I didn't really have as empty bowels as I thought. The problem is that until I eat something it's hard to get rid of everything. Usually I go to toilet after a meal. The problem is that now my stomach is full 

I have no Idea what to do. Maybe next time I will eat coconut flour flatbread an hour before tripping.

[Calmness]

@Username I made a thread about a different boofing technique you might want to try this. With this technique empty bowels are not necessary. You should maybe reduce dosage before trying the new technique not that it gets unexpectedly strong. 

Here is the link on Reddit where everything is explained:

https://www.reddit.com/user/WeirdOneTwoThree/comments/98o55b/guide_to_per_rectal_administration_of_opiates/

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Username said:

Today I did 40 mg - four yellow scoops (the same that Leo uses in his instruction). 14 hours fasting, empty bowels and rectal administration. 0,4 ml of liquid.

I had short peak around 20 minutes mark. Peak lasted for about 10 minutes. It was pleasant but quite weak. It wasn't even noticeably stronger than 30 mg. What did I wrong? I used some oil to lube the syringe - I have no idea if it can affect the absorption. It wasn't even comparable to LSD it terms of intensity. Huge disappointment

Clearly plugging is not effective for you. I would stop doing that and switch to vaping. But lower your dose back down to like 5 or 10mg.

PLUGGING JUST DOES NOT WORK ON SOME PEOPLE.

If you are that person, stop hitting your head against the wall.

[OBEler]

@Username Maybe your substance lands in the rectum area where it can hardly absorb. Next time dont plug so deep. Here is a good thread how deep you should plug it

 

[nowimhere]

On 7/2/2020 at 6:48 AM, Username said:

Today I did 40 mg - four yellow scoops (the same that Leo uses in his instruction). 14 hours fasting, empty bowels and rectal administration. 0,4 ml of liquid.

I had short peak around 20 minutes mark. Peak lasted for about 10 minutes. It was pleasant but quite weak. It wasn't even noticeably stronger than 30 mg. What did I wrong? I used some oil to lube the syringe - I have no idea if it can affect the absorption. It wasn't even comparable to LSD it terms of intensity. Huge disappointment

It took me about a dozen tries to breakthrough with plugging. My "breakthrough entry" dose ended up being 60 mgs. 

I started with 17mgs and kept upping by a couple of mgs until @Leo Gura suggested that I start upping by 5mgs.  Withing 4 sessions from there, (He told me at the 40mg mark), I hit the breakthrough. And again a "entry breakthrough" as you'll find the nature of infinity is... Well... Infinite lol. So you can go a LOT deeper. Just gotta be careful and know your limits.

I started with vaping. I still vape it. It's great as you don't need to use much substance and it just smacks you over the head.  I still suggest vaping to people who haven't tried it yet. So I also agree with @Leo Gura here that you too, should start with vaping. 

To me, plugging is more advanced. As it took me so long to find my dose and get the technique down. But vaping you won't have that issue. Just staight to infinity.... And beyond !

Edited July 3, 2020 by nowimhere

[allislove]

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 Just staight to infinity.... And beyond !

So true, and just around 10mg of freebase ?

[Corpus]

If you have freebase, and the desire to not put your head in a psychedelic blender via vaporization, do try snorting it. The burn is not excessive and 15mg will give a robust 40-45 minute experience. If the rectal route isn't happening for you then this route is a reasonable approximation in terms of tempo/duration.