The 5-MeO-DMT Mega-Thread

[LoseYourvelf]

Insane Max, thanks a lot

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

On 10/7/2024 at 7:29 PM, Leo Gura said:

I smoked toad, it's gross.

Kids smoke toad, real men smoke synthetic.

I have a pamphlet by Hamilton morris and also pihkal and tihkal which shows how to synthesize it.

[El Rio]

I have a question for those who have experienced 5 MEO-DMT.

I'm going to try the FIVE legally in Feb. 2025  Would it be better for me to read many accounts / trip reports or just go in completely like a newb?

And for context, I've probably had 2 dozen medium-high doses of mushroom experiences in the last 2 years and multiple LSD experiences when I was younger...mostly to party with.

 

I'm just wondering if doing lots of research on what to expect might taint the experience?

 

Thanks in advance.

[shree]

If you haven't had a dose high enough to experience a deep breakthrough, you probably don't have a reference point to know what to expect from 5-MeO-DMT.

I would suggest rewatching the conversation between Leo and Martin Ball about 5-MeO. You might also want to read Martin Ball's book, Entheogenic Liberation: Unraveling the Enigma of Nonduality with 5-MeO-DMT Energetic Therapy.

Collect as much information as possible. Going into the experience with some intellectual knowledge about what to expect can help eliminate the possibility of panic attacks or a bad trip caused by thoughts like, "I messed up, this was a bad idea," etc

 

Edited October 18 by shree

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 08/10/2024 at 0:29 AM, Leo Gura said:

I smoked toad, it's gross.

Kids smoke toad, real men smoke synthetic.

Smoked Toad today, yes the taste is not that good but I am used to very bitter Ayahuasca so no problem to me. Still did a small dose just to connect. First time alone. Enogth of Group Trips for me. Time to go Solo and Upscaling dose till Gone.

[Thought Art]

@Rafael Thundercat Leave the toad alone!

[Thought Art]

On 2024-10-18 at 4:16 PM, shree said:

If you haven't had a dose high enough to experience a deep breakthrough, you probably don't have a reference point to know what to expect from 5-MeO-DMT.

I would suggest rewatching the conversation between Leo and Martin Ball about 5-MeO. You might also want to read Martin Ball's book, Entheogenic Liberation: Unraveling the Enigma of Nonduality with 5-MeO-DMT Energetic Therapy.

Collect as much information as possible. Going into the experience with some intellectual knowledge about what to expect can help eliminate the possibility of panic attacks or a bad trip caused by thoughts like, "I messed up, this was a bad idea," etc

 

No matter how much you research it is still a lot.

[shree]

9 hours ago, Thought Art said:

No matter how much you research it is still a lot.

Yup. Nothing can prepare you for it, but being informed about it may at least make the come-up somewhat easier to handle.

[Thought Art]

@shree Especially around safety and precautions I think. 

[shree]

@Thought Art The "funny" part for me was when I realized there was nothing to fear, so naturally, I decided to vape more mid-to-high doses in a row. What didn’t cross my mind at the time, though, was that I still had to function in the material world… and, of course, drive home in the middle of the night. That was the real struggle...

[Psychonaut]

Do you guys have any rituals you do before a trip? Like meditating or setting an intention?

[shree]

14 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Do you guys have any rituals you do before a trip? Like meditating or setting an intention?

Several hours of fasting, mindfulness practice for a few days before the trip, and no screens. I personally don’t set intentions before 5-MeO-DMT trips, as I feel a simple intention can’t influence such a powerful experience, but maybe I am wrong.

 

[Thought Art]

@Psychonaut Clean your space, meditate, listen to soft music.

[Breakingthewall]

On 18/10/2024 at 8:11 PM, El Rio said:

I have a question for those who have experienced 5 MEO-DMT.

I'm going to try the FIVE legally in Feb. 2025  Would it be better for me to read many accounts / trip reports or just go in completely like a newb?

And for context, I've probably had 2 dozen medium-high doses of mushroom experiences in the last 2 years and multiple LSD experiences when I was younger...mostly to party with.

 

I'm just wondering if doing lots of research on what to expect might taint the experience?

 

Thanks in advance.

The usual is that the firsts experiences are bad. You have to open yourself to that substance, it's a work, needs many trials. It's better doing it alone and don't force the dose. The not total doses at first make your mind more flexible,o and an energetic change starts to happen. The first time that you have a breakthrough with 5meo something in broken in your energetic configuration for ever, a real change happens. That doesn't means that after you can do total breakthroughs easy, still is a lot of resistance, but the work is started. Then you have to reconfigure your energetic pattern little by little to make the breakthrough easy, because what closes, the resistance, is the fear, is the ego. 5 meo will guide you in the path of opening to the unlimited if you follow it until the end

[Thought Art]

@Breakingthewall My first trip wasn’t bad. Is it usually they are bad? It’s intense but not always bad. 
 

You can fill your mind with too much stuff. As long as you take proper safety precautions and have a good generally idea of what to expect you should be fine. 

Edited October 22 by Thought Art

[Psychonaut]

Have you guys looked into potential health risks associated with 5-MeO-DMT? I have read its not great for the heart and liver.

[Keryo Koffa]

3 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Have you guys looked into potential health risks associated with 5-MeO-DMT? I have read its not great for the heart and liver.

 

Edited October 23 by Keryo Koffa

[Thought Art]

@Psychonaut I have not seen any reports of this. If you want you can post some research. It is likely there may be some risks. Which is why it shouldn't be used chronically and you should have a solid diet, exercise, sleep and mental health as a key goal if you are going to use the substance.