Good or bad for the world if Finland and Sweden join Nato?

[Value]

What do you think? Does it increase or decrease the risk of world war?

And what about for Sweden and Finland themselves? Does it increase their security or counterintuitively decrease their security as it may increase the risk of a Russian counter-attack?

[Fleetinglife]

Both countries, as far as I know, already had strong military intercooperatibilty, interoperatibilty and ties to NATO beforehand, even some decades ago, and frequently join and partake in military exercises with NATO aligned countries and major players, and the Nordic countries close to them are often used as host for major joint US and NATO countries military training exercises, and also have an influential and strong not insignificant presence in the US/European/ Western/NATO arms market, and military gear supply department, so as far I see they are now only making this membership bid official and that would only lead to the increase of both of their joint military presence in the alliance - though the bid for Finland will be more difficult to be realized in the exact same moment and time as a bid for Sweden will - because of the closer geographic proximity issue and some past unsettled territorial interlaping boundaries and issues following heated political disputes with Russia in history and in the not so recent past after the breakup of the USSR - I would maybe only hope that that particular country waits a few months or years after Sweden in joining the Alliance after the dust settles from the Ukranian war and when Russia feels that it is in a less vulnerable and weaker moment, not to make it seem that it is doing it as militarily opportune moment and not to allow itself to fall into doubt to be misinterpreted as a militarily aggressive and provocative move in the moment and not it's own general defensive bid for it's own safety and security concerns and not as a useful vessel for someone else's wider political goals and military strategies - though the general idea and hope seems to be to get all of those Nordic countries and geographical region together in one fell swoop and bid - same as they did before with Baltic countries and South Eastern European countries with former historical and political ties to Russia and the Soviet Union. 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Fleetinglife

[Danioover9000]

@Value

5 hours ago, Value said:

What do you think? Does it increase or decrease the risk of world war?

And what about for Sweden and Finland themselves? Does it increase their security or counterintuitively decrease their security as it may increase the risk of a Russian counter-attack?

   I think if those countries joined at the same time, it would definitely be a threat to Russia and raise the likelihood of nuclear war, but if those countries joined one at a time, over time, it would be less threatening. This is a better net benefit to the world, in comparison to the great net negative of a nuclear war world wide.

[Blackhawk]

3 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Value

   I think if those countries joined at the same time, it would definitely be a threat to Russia and raise the likelihood of nuclear war, but if those countries joined one at a time, over time, it would be less threatening. This is a better net benefit to the world, in comparison to the great net negative of a nuclear war world wide.

[Porphyry Fedotov]

It's surprising they didn't join NATO 8 years ago when Russia annexed Crimea and destabilized eastern Ukraine

[Danioover9000]

@Blackhawk

8 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

   I'm serious. Qt the sqme time, it would trigger the 5hreat threshold far more than one at a time.

   Here are the facts of the situation:

   Russia has over 6000 nuclear warheads.

   Scandinavian countries don't, or are withholding such information.

    Putin and probably kremlin were triggered by the Ukrain joining NATO. That's one country. Imagine how triggered they'd be if 3-4 countries jouned at the same time. Especially Finland given the closer proximity to Russia.

[T_i_m]