5-meo-mipt, Reports?

[jse]

I've been reading about 5-MeO-MiPT , which according to some reports apparently offers similar effects to plain 5-MeO, with one biiig difference: it's orally active at 4-6mg, and the experience lasts 4-6 hours.

Has anyone here tried 5-MeO-MiPT?

 

[outlandish]

I've tried it a few times. Despite what it might look like from the name 5-MeO-MiPT is a completely different species from 5-MeO-DMT, and isn't very comparable, although it does have things in common.

 

[jse]

Hmmm, both 5-MEO-DMT and 5-MEO-MIPT are MethylTryptamines, and their molecular structures appear very similar:

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[outlandish]

Yes, that's why their abbreviated names look similar. MiPT stands for monoisopropyl. The isopropyl group is the branched thing attached to the nitrogen (N) in the diagram. Mono because there's one of them. 

In drug chemistry, small changed can make a big difference in the way they interact with receptor sites. 

5-MeO-MiPT is a very different substance from 5-MeO-DMT. It's worth checking out, and I encourage safe experimentation, but should not be considered equivalent at all.

[ZeN]

What about 5-MeO-DiPT, the so called Foxy Methoxy. Does anyone have experience with that substance and how does ot compare to regular 5Meo?

[outlandish]

DiPT is diisopropyltryptamine, so it has a pair of those isopropyl groups attached to the N. 

5-MeO-DiPT is also a very distinct drug from 5-MeO-DMT. I've never tried it, but it's effects certainly have more in common with 5-MeO-MiPT than 5-MeO-DMT.

A lot of people don't like 5-MeO-DiPT, but some do.

If you'd like to learn more about these compounds, a good place to start is the bluelight forum

[ZeN]

And then you compare all these compounds to our "regular" neurotransmitter serotonin which has a very similar structure, 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) and we could come to the conclusion that everyday reality is a constant hallucinogenic trip on 5-HT. What is a hallucination, what is reality? Are we really supposed to agree that only one trip is "real" life and others are just silly visions...I dont think so

[Neo]

That's the whole point about receptor sites, it works like a key in a lock. There's absolutely no point comparing drugs that look like Serotonin, I've seen it on several posts on this site with misleading comments.

[Esoteric]

I have tried 5-MeO-MiPT and it's a good substance. Can be a bit heavy on the body. NOTHING like 5-MeO-DMT. Not even in the same ball-park. Just because they have a similar structure on a molecular level doesn't mean they share the same effects.

[outlandish]

This thread illustrates why it's important to refer to it as 5-MeO-DMT and not just 5-MeO (or DMT for that matter). It's wordy, but it's important to be precise.

If you're too lazy to spell it out or say the whole thing, you probably don'y need to be talking about it.

[Psychonaut]

@outlandish Martin Ball just refers to it as 5. It could mean anything. 

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, outlandish said:

This thread illustrates why it's important to refer to it as 5-MeO-DMT and not just 5-MeO (or DMT for that matter). It's wordy, but it's important to be precise.

If you're too lazy to spell it out or say the whole thing, you probably don'y need to be talking about it.

There's also 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT

So technically even 5-MeO-DMT is ambiguous.

If one's not smart enough to know the differences, one probably shouldn't be touching it.

[outlandish]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There's also 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT

So technically even 5-MeO-DMT is ambiguous.

I've never heard of that compound, very interesting.

Respectfully, I disagree. 5-MeO-DMT refers unambiguously to the molecule where a methoxy is attached to the 5-position on a DMT molecule. 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT is specifically the one you mentioned.

5-MeO is a bit ambiguous and leads to misunderstandings where people get confused and don't even know what they're taking. Totally agree with you on this tho:

"If one's not smart enough to know the differences, one probably shouldn't be touching it"