Joe Rogan SUPPORTS ‘Don’t say gay’ bill

[Danioover9000]

@Preety_India

9 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

I didn't get you. Are you in favor of the bill being passed or are you against the bill? 

 

   I'm more leaning in favor of the bill, if this bill fits in with that society. I'm also in favor of modifications to policies if needed, based on many other factors.

[Danioover9000]

@Bobby_2021

21 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

I remember my teenage years as already being confused enough having to accomodate for 2 genders.

Imagine growing up with n number of genders.

   Going off topic a bit, what's interesting is that it's possible to develop alter egos or other roles in your psyche that you can switch to other you basically. The main problem is that this was negatively developed and internalized enough that it's harder to unwire, and if those egos are sexual identities then it becomes tricky.

[DnoReally]

6 hours ago, pedro23 said:

I thought you were more into armpits. 

True, and I can't wait to tell some 8 year olds about it. How else could I teach them about Addition and Subtraction

[Danioover9000]

@Preety_India

21 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

I didn't get you. Are you in favor of the bill being passed or are you against the bill? 

 

   If this was a bill that passed in some rural area, or a state were religious like education is had, and the country is more right leaning, technically that bill fits well with that kind of society, but in a more progressive dominant state it doesn't fit well, like in Scandinavian countries.

[Hardkill]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's exactly their dream. They have been trying to do that for decades.

You think that that dream is just a pipe dream of theirs that is never gonna happen?

Edited April 10, 2022 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

You think that that dream is just a pipe dream of theirs that is never gonna happen?

They have been on the losing side of history for a long time on this issue.

Sex-ed is going to start younger and younger, because it just makes sense to educate kids early to preempt problems and ignorance from taking root.

By not teaching kids about sex-ed, they become easier to sexually abuse and manipulate. It also actually leaves kids in a state of confusion and makes sex seem taboo or dirty.

[Danioover9000]

@How to be wise

22 hours ago, How to be wise said:

I’m confused as to why some people believe he is at stage Yellow.

 

   From start to 56 seconds in is Joe Rogan saying his views and three edited cuts, I think this was a part of a long episode or multiple episodes. The rest were right wing media takes, one CNN take, and some random right leaning politician I think.

   In general, it's Joe's open-mindedness that gives him that stage yellow aspect. But certainly this edited and clips of videos, by TheDC Shorts makes him seem more right leaning than normal especially since this clips of Joe is followed by other right wing stuff. However, if you had children, I think the reaction is understandable.

[Hardkill]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They have been on the losing side of history for a long time on this issue.

Sex-ed is going to start younger and younger, because it just makes sense to educate kids early to preempt problems and ignorance from taking root.

By not teaching kids about sex-ed, they become easier to sexually abuse and manipulate. It also actually leaves kids in a state of confusion and makes sex seem taboo or dirty.

Yeah, I agree that sex education should eventually start as young as possible. 

Do you think that sex education will improve enough to the point that much less underage individuals will stop watching porn too early?

[Bobby_2021]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Imagine how confused you will be when you grow up clueless and then learn one day that gender is a category constructed by the mind?

By that point you will be so in denial about it that you will turn into a transphobe and bully trans people as a defense mechanism.

The idea that kids are traumatized by sex education is absurd. It's their parents who are traumatized. The kids have no problem with it. If kids were taught sex-ed in 1st grade it would remove a lot of ignorance and stigma around sex.

What you say makes sense, and I can't come with anything reasonable against it, even though it looks somewhat threatening since I identify with my masculinity so dearly and I love it.

Maybe these are all just my concerns, just like my parents had stupid concerns about me. Maybe my kids will be smarter than me the way  I am smarter than my boomer parents.?

But still, I can't accept the biological men in women's competition & women's toilets. That's like a reasonable claim that conservatives have real depth in and most smart people will side with them, especially since women themselves already feel uncomfortable with it. 

30% of the conservatives are impossible to convince. There are many smart conservatives who could have been swayed will still remain with the idiotic conservatives who are downright homophobic, because of fringe issues like this. 

In short, do you think there is anything that the current LBGTQ movement is doing it wrong, or are they right all the time?

Do you have any sublte criticisms of the movement? 

Also instead of outright silencing them, I would recommend convincing the smart conservatives to change camps. Because there are some legitimacy to their claims as I have mentioned above.  Such issues do need to be sorted out. You cannot be confused and still conduct sports and daily life, atleast that's my proposition.

[Bobby_2021]

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

This bill is necessary

I thought you were a staunch leftist liberal.?

[Preety_India]

5 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

I thought you were a staunch leftist liberal.?

That's not a non liberal position. Biden is signing it. 

 

[Hardkill]

16 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

That's not a non liberal position. Biden is signing it. 

 

Gov. Desantis is the one signing this bill for all schools within the state of Florida. 

Biden and his administration have deemed the bill as hateful.

Joe Biden has becomes increasingly more supportive of LQBTQ+ rights since 2012. 

 

 

Edited April 10, 2022 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

It's a classic right-wing move to deliberately conflate homosexuality and other alternative sexual norms with pedophilia and child abuse.

Russia has a similar law on the books which bans education about such topics under the present of an "anti-pedophile propaganda" law which is really a soft form of homophobia.

Right-wingers get real crafty about how they construct and frame such laws: "To protect the children"

[Leo Gura]

 

[Hardkill]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

Brutal.

Well for all of Russia's machismo, strong authoritarianism, and great intimidation, they've turned out to have quite a humiliating and pathetic military force. 

Putin and everyone in the Kremlin have turned into primitive bullies who are becoming more and more afraid of their owns shadows.

Edited April 10, 2022 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

@Benton I see you and raise you this:

 

[hoodrow trillson]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

It's a classic right-wing move to deliberately conflate homosexuality and other alternative sexual norms with pedophilia and child abuse.

Russia has a similar law on the books which bans education about such topics under the present of an "anti-pedophile propaganda" law which is really a soft form of homophobia.

Right-wingers get real crafty about how they construct and frame such laws: "To protect the children"

I've always meant to ask this question to someone but since you brought it up:

Why are Conservatives/Right wing/Republicans such experts in pedophilia?  They know SO much about pedophilia to the extent that they are teaching people about pedophilia.  Where does this come from?  

The Brown senate confirmation hearings really opened my eyes since every right wing person there were extremely interested in pedophilia.  It's wild to me.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

https://www.oshonews.com/2015/10/06/homosexuality-lesbianism/

Edit:

https://messagefrommasters.com/Shiva-Shakti/osho_on_homosexuality_perversion.htm

Edited April 11, 2022 by Husseinisdoingfine

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, hoodrow trillson said:

I've always meant to ask this question to someone but since you brought it up:

Why are Conservatives/Right wing/Republicans such experts in pedophilia?  They know SO much about pedophilia to the extent that they are teaching people about pedophilia.  Where does this come from?  

The Brown senate confirmation hearings really opened my eyes since every right wing person there were extremely interested in pedophilia.  It's wild to me.

It's classic projection and scapegoating.

When you smear any POV that challenges your own as pedophilia, you don't have to think very hard about your own worldview or political philosophy -- which is morally bankrupt.

Overall, there are going to be more pedophiles in the right-wing because they are lower in consciousness and more selfish.

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

Remembers me of that one time in 5th grade where I brought home some sex-ed homework which triggered the hell out my mother. She was like: "How can they teach this kind of stuff to children?! That's so messed up!" which is interesting because she was barely 19 when she got me which is waay to young to have a child imo. She was probably very ignorant as a result of not receiving the kind of sex-ed (which wasn't even that much to be honest) that I got. Her life might have been better if she hadn't gotten a child this early on. Sex ed MIGHT (who knows) have increased the general quality of her life.

Of course!

[vizual]

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

Remembers me of that one time in 5th grade where I brought home some sex-ed homework which triggered the hell out my mother. She was like: "How can they teach this kind of stuff to children?! That's so messed up!" which is interesting because she was barely 19 when she got me which is waay to young to have a child imo. She was probably very ignorant as a result of not receiving the kind of sex-ed (which wasn't even that much to be honest) that I got. Her life might have been better if she hadn't gotten a child this early on. Sex ed MIGHT (who knows) have increased the general quality of her life.

Lol, the parents also have a responsibility to educate their children on essential life lessons. If she’s 19 and she never heard of contraception or condoms something seriously went wrong in her upbringing. Apart from the fact that she probably lived under a rock her whole childhood.

 

A lack of sex education is not the reason teenage girls get knocked up. It’s a lack of personal responsibility in most cases. Unless she really wanted a child, my mom also had me at 18 because she really wanted a child (jokes on her though lol)