Andy Cutler 4 core: too much? Issues

[Matt23]

So I started doing the 4-core two weeks prior to chelating my first time.  But the day I did them, I got pretty disruptive and intense stomach cramps, burps, reflux, and just felt awful in my guts.  I stopped the next day but it still sort of continued, perhaps even till the third day.  I feel better now.  

These are the amounts I was taking as recommend by the Andy Cutler facebook group protocol.

Zinc: 50mg daily (I did it at night)

Magnesium citrate: 150mg 4 times daily (I think this may be a likely culprit as I think I've reacted badly to magnesium in the past).

Vit. E: 400IU 3 times daily.

Vit. C: 1000mg 4 times daily. 

 

I just don't want to ruin my stomach or other things more by doing this, especially since it was very uncomfortable.  

Any thought, other options, opinions, recommendations, etc., welcomed. 

Cheers

[puporing]

I am not taking the highest recommended dosages for those. Maybe you can cut it to where it's not affecting you negatively like that.

[Matt23]

Ya.  Might be wise.  

Also might try just adding one supplement at a time to see the effects. 

Cheers

[Michael569]

That vitamin C dose is fairly high and gastrointestinal disturbances can occur even at smaller doses. 

The zinc is high enough as well to cause issues in some people, it's not uncommon. Although it is more common to get zinc induced nausea if taken on empty stomach in the morning.

Magnesium is just above recommended daily dose. Citrate is usually well tolerated although with 600mg you may be going slightly overboard and that can cause some osmotic changes in the gut.

Overall this seems like quite a radical supplemental protocol but still within ranges of what's safe short term. I'd probably take a step back and ease into it. Also I'd eat everything except zonc with food and zinc before bedtime (as you were) 

[Average Investor]

Something to also consider would be to try changing the form of the vitamin as well if you react poorly to one. 

Are you using buffered ascorbic acid for vitamin C? Non-buffered versions are more prone to upsetting the stomach. 

[Matt23]

10 hours ago, Michael569 said:

That vitamin C dose is fairly high and gastrointestinal disturbances can occur even at smaller doses. 

The zinc is high enough as well to cause issues in some people, it's not uncommon. Although it is more common to get zinc induced nausea if taken on empty stomach in the morning.

Magnesium is just above recommended daily dose. Citrate is usually well tolerated although with 600mg you may be going slightly overboard and that can cause some osmotic changes in the gut.

Overall this seems like quite a radical supplemental protocol but still within ranges of what's safe short term. I'd probably take a step back and ease into it. Also I'd eat everything except zonc with food and zinc before bedtime (as you were) 

Cheers.  ... zinc without food eh?  They recommended it with food.  I'll try without.  Though, i have been taking it for a few days now ans am doing fine.

3 hours ago, Average Investor said:

Something to also consider would be to try changing the form of the vitamin as well if you react poorly to one. 

Are you using buffered ascorbic acid for vitamin C? Non-buffered versions are more prone to upsetting the stomach. 

I'll check that out.

[Ima Freeman]

Start with a low dose and increase gradually. It might be that your bodies chemistry is disrupted, which is the case with heavy metal toxic people. Starting to high with supplements could mobilize your system too fast.

Also make sure you are taking as high of a quality of supplements as you can afford. You wouldn't wonder if your gut has troubles after cheap food.

And in my experience, zinc on an empty stomach, especially in the morning can cause nausea and vomiting. Happened to me a couple of times. So take it with food, I'm sure more of it gets absorbed with it too. If nausea sets in, eating a little bit like a fruit can help.

[Michael569]

11 hours ago, Matt23 said:

zinc without food eh?

without food before bedtime, yes. This is because many minerals have a binding affinity for zinc receptors and it is easy for there to be interference with absorption. 

[Matt23]

Cheers