Benefits of no fap for women?

[something_else]

28 minutes ago, bambi said:

And there is tons of evidence of downregulation of dopamine for novelty - what research have you done in this area?

Not in relation to masturbating/porn as far as I know. Feel free to point me in the direction of such info. I have never seen conclusive proof that masturbation is harmful in the same way as something like cocaine is, yet no-fappers frequently talk about it like it's the worst thing ever for you

That's the part that irritates me. I'm not saying it isn't bad for you, I'm mainly arguing that there is little proof that it's anywhere near as bad for you as no-fappers often suggest

30 minutes ago, bambi said:

you are making the naturalistic fallacy

I was pointing out that your body is designed to fuck lots and continue functioning optimally after fucking. Evolutionarily if your brain chemistry started to break down after lots of sex that would be incredibly disadvantageous

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There are fundamental laws in regards to novelty that transcend even sex. The first time you do anything is the most intense, as its the most novel, as you watch the same film, eat the same food, have the same type of sex, your body releases less and less reward, as it seeks novelty

Why is searching for novelty such a bad thing in your eyes?

Most people hit equilibrium of novelty and effort anyway. It's not like you constantly look for new ways to jerk off, eventually you find what works and stick to it. It becomes a tool to release sexual thoughts and let you focus on more important things. Like eating food releases you from hunger

[something_else]

2 minutes ago, Aleister Crowleyy said:

Your compulsory nature will consume you. Haha, we are designed for reproduction. Reproduction simply means survival. Nothing is bad, not even drugs. But, when there are benefits many people who are lacking such benefits will eventually gravitate towards such benefits

What?

[LostStudent]

There's a lot of good information in this thread. I wasn't aware of a lot this stuff prior to this thread. Thanks guys and gals!

I've decided to try no fap. I usually masturbate twice a day during the week, this gets replaced by regular sex during the weekends when I sleep over at my boyfriend's place or he stays at mine. I plan to cut masturbation out entirely for the time being. I feel like it's cruel on some level to deprive my boyfriend of sex so I'm going to leave sex on the table for now. I don't have any expectations on benefits so I'll just see how it goes I guess. 

I think one of the struggles will be falling asleep at night. I didn't masturbate last night and I had a tough time falling asleep. Masturbation is a great way for me to relax before bed, I'll definitely need to find another activity to unwind before bedtime or I'll relapse quick haha. Another thing that I've noticed today is that my mind seems much more open to sexual thoughts. I have to redirect my attention to other things or I end up feeling horny at work which is feels a bit awkward. I'm hoping this changes after I get more accustomed to no fap. 

 

[LostStudent]

38 minutes ago, BenG said:

You're an absolute legend! ?

Why are you thinking about stopping while you're so far ahead? ?

Honestly, why are you even asking about this? No fap is really dumb.

Do you use toys?

A few of my guy friends are doing this, I also see a good amount of posts about no fap here so I thought I'd find out more and maybe give it a try. I alternate between using a toy and the shower head in my bathroom. 

[LostStudent]

35 minutes ago, A_v_E said:

@LostStudent sex is a drug when it is abused.

it's not because it's "natural drug release" than it is healthy to abuse it.

 

@BenG  Too much of a good thing, is not a good thing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_hedonism

 

When is sex abused in your opinion? Does it depend on frequency? 

[LostStudent]

@Knowledge Hoarder

21 minutes ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

Honestly, not sure why a woman would be interested in this type of abstinence - unless there's a big trade off, like for example better sex. Unless the masturbation habit seriously hampers your everyday life/activities/goals/focus, I don't see how it could be harmfull for women - I mean, arguably nofap could be considered just a placebo for men's confidence.

I don't think I'm aware enough to notice what this habit hampers because I've been doing it for so long. It's been a little over 24 hours since I last did it and I already feel quite a bit different. My mind seems much open to sexual thoughts and I notice myself more turned on when I view certain pictures/images. I have a clear schedule of masturbation during the week and sex during the weekends so I think it's possible this could lead to better sex with such a long break between. I guess only time will tell. 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, LostStudent said:

I feel like it's cruel on some level to deprive my boyfriend of sex so I'm going to leave sex on the table for now.

Why don't you actually make your sex deeply spiritual instead?

Same for your masturbation.

You're taking sex so for granted.

[Leo Gura]

49 minutes ago, Aleister Crowleyy said:

@Leo Gura hahahaha because she is a female.

My advice on this matter applies equally to men and women.

You guys are demonizing sex and masturbation in ways which will backfire.

[bazera]

@Leo Gura

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You guys are demonizing sex and masturbation in ways which will backfire.

I think people are demonizing excessive and compulsive forms of it, which can become problematic for real.

But the same goes with everything basically. We don't want to be eating excessively and compulsively either and need to learn how to eat in healthy ways, but there is no community with the name of NoFood lol. But there is intermittent fasting protocol, detox protocols, diets, and stuff, that helps people to learn how to eat relatively correctly. 

I think people also need to know that it might get problematic if your whole life is consumed by fapping and porn (and for many it is), and NoFap is an attempt at telling that in my opinion.

[BirdNerd]

Actual 26 y/o female reporting in.

When I was 18 I did the 90 day nowap challenge. Honestly it seems most people interested in self actualization experiment with this at some point. There's a ton of people on YT, reddit, and forums preaching about all the superpowers from simply not touching the pp.

The first 2 weeks I was horny all day every day. I barely thought of anything else, so it was difficult to focus on college work. So much for superhuman focus and work ethic.

I did have a lot of energy. Most of it was pure sexual frustration that I had to channel into other tasks that I did half-heatedly. I truly did not want to do anything other than the nearest guy. 

After 2 weeks, I reached the "flat line" where I had 0 arousal. It was more peaceful I guess. I got more work done than the past couple weeks but not more than before I began the experiment. I started to feel that life was bland and routine. I did what was needed without much inspiration. When I broke my vow of purity, I came in about 5 seconds. The slight depression lifted.

One positive was I relied less on porn moving forward. I don't think it's degenerate, but I was sinking too much time into it. I became more interested in the guys around me. I actually still enjoy using my imagination more than videos.

I noticed no benefit to not masturbating. Actually it felt unhealthy to restrict myself. I figure nofap is more for mentally ill males with ED from their PMO addiction. Maybe they feel "superpowers" when they resemble a normal, sexually healthy human.

I find it funny that influencers get rich and famous off of counting the days since they last applied friction to the pp. Vulnerable young people trying to self improve get stuck in a pointless sexual shame cycle and extinguish their naturally high need to fuck. You're young just enjoy it imo. If anyone gets a true benefit out of nofap, more power to you.

When I think of having sex it's quite pleasurable. Hmm, yeah, I definitely would not want to stop..

[LostStudent]

@Leo Gura

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why don't you actually make your sex deeply spiritual instead?

Same for your masturbation.

You're taking sex so for granted.

Can you elaborate on this? How would this look like in practice?

[LostStudent]

@BirdNerd

6 hours ago, BirdNerd said:

The first 2 weeks I was horny all day every day. I barely thought of anything else, so it was difficult to focus on college work. So much for superhuman focus and work ethic.

I did have a lot of energy. Most of it was pure sexual frustration that I had to channel into other tasks that I did half-heatedly. I truly did not want to do anything other than the nearest guy. 

Thanks for sharing your experience! This is me right now haha . I've been incredibly unproductive at work since I've stopped masturbation, I think of sex all day. Thankfully I'm working from home next week so I should have less distractions... Did you abstain from all sexual activities during the 90 days?

6 hours ago, BirdNerd said:

After 2 weeks, I reached the "flat line" where I had 0 arousal. It was more peaceful I guess. I got more work done than the past couple weeks but not more than before I began the experiment. I started to feel that life was bland and routine. I did what was needed without much inspiration. When I broke my vow purity, I came in about 5 seconds. The slight depression lifted.

I'd like to experience this. I don't know if I'll be able to though, since I'm only really doing no fap during the week days. 

Edited March 17, 2022 by LostStudent

[something_else]

7 hours ago, BirdNerd said:

nowap

Is this a typo? If not that's genius 

[something_else]

26 minutes ago, A_v_E said:

I suggest people here read people addict to drugs, for me, addiction to orgasm is the same.

now you can say "nah I need sex, it's just repression"

The comparison to drug addiction seems silly to me. Drugs are clearly harmful to you when you become addicted

Saying you are addicted to sex is kind of like saying you are addicted to water, air or food. You have a natural biological requirement towards these things, it isn't addiction. You do not have a natural biological drive towards hard addictive drugs

[Vynce]

2 hours ago, something_else said:

You have a natural biological requirement towards these things, it isn't addiction

However, we are all abusing these basic needs. The need for food turns into endless binging of sweets and fast food. The need for sex turns into marathons of porn consumption. Your brain is not wired to health, your brain is wired to multiplication of every dopamine hit it can get.

If you give certain dogs an endless supply of food, they will eat themselves to death. Metaphorically thats happening with humans as well.

So water fasting or NoFap can actually give you a new perspective on your needs. At the end there is a huge spectrum of how you fulfill your needs in healthy and unhealthy ways. 

Edited March 17, 2022 by Vynce

[LostStudent]

@A_v_E

3 hours ago, A_v_E said:

@something_else  natural is good ?

It's natural for some insects to eat the head of the male when having copulation. 

Venom from snake is natural.

What I mean is. Being hacked by nature evolution is a thing. But hacking your biology with your mind is maybe better to not get your head eaten. 

 

I've personally never met a guy who didn't like having their head eaten during copulation. 

I kid.. I see your point. 

[mojsterr]

Just so that it's official - If I were a woman I'd masturbate all day every day. Thank you for listening. Continue.

Edited March 18, 2022 by mojsterr

[something_else]

18 hours ago, Vynce said:

The need for food turns into endless binging of sweets and fast food. The need for sex turns into marathons of porn consumption

I don't like this comparison because you can point to the damage caused by excessive consumption of sweets and fast food but you can't do the same with porn and masturbation

Most of the NoFap evidence is anecdotal. Which is not to say wrong, but simply that it isn't great to go around claiming no-fap is the way to go when really there isn't a whole lot of concrete evidence for it. That is the main point I wanted to get across here

I'm not anti-no-fap, I'm just against no-fappers who are dead certain (and love to preach) that masturbation is extremely harmful for guys with little reason for thinking that way other than ideology and heresay

18 hours ago, Vynce said:

So water fasting or NoFap can actually give you a new perspective on your needs. At the end there is a huge spectrum of how you fulfill your needs in healthy and unhealthy ways. 

I think this is a healthy way to view NoFap. I agree that it would definitely give you a healthy perspective on your needs. I disagree with demonising masturbation, though

[integral]

The most obvious benefit is it will improve your sex life. after about a week of nothing, having sex will feel like you're a virgin again. connection with partner will be better. 

Edited March 18, 2022 by integral

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, integral said:

The most obvious benefit is it will improve your sex life. after about a week of nothing, having sex will feel like you're a virgin again. connection with partner will be better. 

If you got a partner the need to fap should naturally be greatly reduced anyway.