Quotes of beautiful souls of this forum, which helped me deal with solipsism.

[Carl-Richard]

8 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

You forgot the rest of your quote.

I'm sorry, I added it, but you were too quick.

 

13 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

"You are not your body-mind. You are infinite consciousness imagining body-minds. Infinite consciousness is alone, because there is nothing outside of infinity."

 

I selected the last part of the original quote in OP's post for brevity's sake. Are you insinuating that the first part is contradicting the last part?

[r0ckyreed]

3 minutes ago, Loba said:

@r0ckyreed Thanks Rocky, you rock for taking the time to talk to me through this.
It means a lot to me that someone reached out and showed genuine care.
I legit don't know what to do, I have another three hours until the vet opens and I can take her in.
I had all these plans to make this dogs life fulfilling and she might not get that and it just feels wrong.
They're like little children, baby animals, no different from us, and she trusts me and even though I didn't do this, I feel like I betrayed her life somehow.

I've had a lot of spiritual experience, but nothing that leads to solipsism, only... like Leo says, diversity.  Just an insane amount of diversity.

No problem. Wish you the best. 

 

7 minutes ago, Tim R said:

Solipsism/bubble is based on self/separation,

What if it isn’t? What if the imagination of other minds/bubbles is the duality, and solipsism unites all minds into the one mind?

 

8 minutes ago, Tim R said:

Solipsism is not awakening, not sorry to burst your bubble. Pun intended.

Awakening = no bubble

Nice one lol. But how do you know anything beyond your own mind? Anything beyond your mind is in your mind. Took me a while to deconstruct that one. That is what I mean by solipsism.

 

9 minutes ago, Tim R said:

Awakening goes way, way beyond beliefs like Solipsism. 

Correct. No belief is true. Belief is what we do when we don’t know what is true.

 

10 minutes ago, Tim R said:

No self, no other, no separation, non-finite!! So long as you perceive reality as this finite bubble (which is literally why you even chose that word in the first place), there's a bubble left for you to burst. This "bubble" is a belief, a fiction, a projection. 

I would agree. This is the limits of language and my part in communication. I don’t perceive this “bubble” as finite. The bubble is so infinite that you cannot call it a bubble anymore. When you deconstruct all other bubbles, you also deconstruct your own, and you realize it is infinite. What I meant by bubbles is “other” minds or fields of experiences that you imagine. There is only one experience. 

 

13 minutes ago, Tim R said:

This "bubble" is a belief, a fiction, a projection. 

I don’t prefer using the concept “bubble” when describing consciousness because “bubble” implies finiteness of “something being beyond the bubble. I prefer to use the term “field of experience.” There is only one field of experience right now and it isn’t a belief. The field of experience is actuality and anything beyond it is imagination.

[r0ckyreed]

6 hours ago, Forza21 said:

This is exactly why teachers like Rupert Spira reject solipsism, because people misunderstand it. It's generally a really bad pointer. It's also so ridiculously ironic that people have lately started shitting on the lessons of Neo-Advaita, because it's exactly what is needed to not misunderstand absolute solipsism.

I believe this was the part of the quote I disagreed with. Can you see it now? Sense of other is written all over it.

[r0ckyreed]

20 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

selected the last part of the original quote in OP's post for brevity's sake. Are you insinuating that the first part is contradicting the last part?

I am not sure what you mean by infinite consciousness when putting it with the first part of your quote. 
 

If by infinite consciousness, you mean something other or outside of your field of experience, then I would challenge you to reexamine that.

Edited March 14, 2022 by r0ckyreed

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

No problem. Wish you the best. 

 

What if it isn’t? What if the imagination of other minds/bubbles is the duality, and solipsism unites all minds into the one mind?

 

Nice one lol. But how do you know anything beyond your own mind? Anything beyond your mind is in your mind. Took me a while to deconstruct that one. That is what I mean by solipsism.

 

Correct. No belief is true. Belief is what we do when we don’t know what is true.

 

I would agree. This is the limits of language and my part in communication. I don’t perceive this “bubble” as finite. The bubble is so infinite that you cannot call it a bubble anymore. When you deconstruct all other bubbles, you also deconstruct your own, and you realize it is infinite. What I meant by bubbles is “other” minds or fields of experiences that you imagine. There is only one experience. 

 

I don’t prefer using the concept “bubble” when describing consciousness because “bubble” implies finiteness of “something being beyond the bubble. I prefer to use the term “field of experience.” There is only one field of experience right now and it isn’t a belief. The field of experience is actuality and anything beyond it is imagination.

Well said on all points about Truth (I don't know about the quotes I didn't read them all) but your correct on everything.  I don't like calling it a bubble either its an Infinite Field of Consciousness.  An infinite Mind.  And solipsism is a word that doesn't even need to be used really.   Truth just is what it is.

@Tim RThis Infinte Mind is Infinitely Intelligent - and yes it can feel too.  And yes it CAN feel a sense of aloneness when it realizes it is the only Mind in existence and everything is recontexualized.   Thinking and feeling does not require finitude.  These are not actually human qualities these are qualities of Infinite Consciousness or the Infinite field of Consciousness.  A human or finite self is imagined.  It is an idea within the Mind of God and you are that Mind. 

[Carl-Richard]

11 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

I believe this was the part of the quote I disagreed with. Can you see it now? Sense of other is written all over it.

No please enlighten me.

 

8 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

If by infinite consciousness, you mean something other or outside of your field of experience, then I would challenge you to reexamine that.

I still don't see it.

[r0ckyreed]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

No please enlighten me.

Only you can enlighten yourself. There is no other to “enlighten” you.

 

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I still don't see it.

Not sure how I can help you with that. 

You have to examine all your assumptions. It is all written there. I don’t have time to spell everything out for you. That’s your job. Others cannot awaken you, but they sure are designed to keep you asleep. 

Rupert Spira, other people, and Neo-Advaita are completely imaginary and full of crap just like everything else in this dream.

I leave it up to you if you wish to follow the breadcrumbs or not. Good luck! ?

Edited March 15, 2022 by r0ckyreed

[WelcometoReality]

@Forza21 Yes, truly wise words from everyone. It's fantastic how much this forum has evolved during the six years I've been here. ?

[Vincent S]

@r0ckyreed Couldn't agree more. But where is the love in that? Maybe you would say: "That in itself is what Love is" , but is that the complete and full picture of Everything? Why then does the dream exist?
Isn't not to use your Lovely "powers" on the only "Reality" there could ever be? This whole dream is just for You. Either you Love it or you don't.
Yes all the people are imaginary and designed to keep you asleep, but that is where you can use your powers.

[Vincent S]

What Solipsism fails at is that it doesn't completely show the entire picture to what Ultimate Reality is for. "People" catch on to Solipsism intellectually, and their sense of reality is skewed. Because they are missing a HUGE component: Love.

Consciousness is absolutely worth nothing without Love. And Love is worth absolutely nothing without Consciousness. And these "two" are in actuality, One. And when Solipsism is taken as a belief or intellectual masturbation: Its only seen as one side of the Unity between Love and Consciousness.

@r0ckyreed Im not implying this to you, im only directing what you said, and complementing it to OP. 

<3

Edited March 15, 2022 by Vincent S

[Vincent S]

Imagine yourself standing in front of a mirror. Your reflection in the mirror is nothing but imaginary and your sense of self, seeing "yourself" is imaginary. Even the mirror is imaginary.
Now apply that to "other" people. You are seeing yourself in "them", and the "you" you think you are is also imaginary, seeing imaginary "others" "outside" you.

You created yourself in this dream, out of love. And you created "others" as a reflection of yourself, but also with the same "substance" as you created yourself with.

So, what is left to do when you are standing in front of a mirror, but to Love it?
What is left to do when you are seeing yourself in "others", but to love them?

Someone said something very profound here the other day: "Either you see this whole thing as you are alone. Or you see it as You are All One."
Two ways of seeing the same thing. But in all actuality, you being alone is not the full picture, because who said that there is a you to begin with?
See, others exist, because you "exist". And its all one happening.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Vincent S

[Vincent S]

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Edited March 15, 2022 by Vincent S

[Carl-Richard]

@r0ckyreed

You've been needlessly confrontational and evasive and stirring up confusion.

[Inliytened1]

@r0ckyreed did you have some deeper awakenings of late?   No need to answer just curious.  Your writing seems different.

[Gili Trawangan]

11 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

Others cannot awaken you, but they sure are designed to keep you asleep. 

This is a story - a thought. No truth whatsoever to it.

Just notice the energy behind some of your messages here. I mean, it's ok, no problem, anybody can get contracted into ego and try to defend a position. That's what ego does. It's wise though to notice that and realign. Letting go of thoughts - now that's some spiritual shit right there

[r0ckyreed]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

@r0ckyreed did you have some deeper awakenings of late?   No need to answer just curious.  Your writing seems different.

Yes but I still am not done. I am trying to integrate it all now and go even deeper. 
 

I did it all through contemplation. The experiences were so powerful that I was scared at first, but after processing it, I cried out of joy and hugged every tree as I saw it all as myself. It was like I was high without taking any substance. Insight into God, no-self, no-other took me a while to stomach and process. No-other and external reality was hard to deconstruct.
 

But I realize that there is so much more depth. I can’t even imagine what could be possible to find on psychedelics. Never tried them so I don’t know what I am missing. I am still attached to survival. I don’t consider myself done until I have reached the deepest levels of understanding and have transcended all of my attachments to life. It is one thing to wake up once or twice or however many times, and it is another thing to remain that way throughout all of life. I consider what I did as waking up to hitting the snooze button. I am not fully awake until I live from my insights and understanding.

Edited March 15, 2022 by r0ckyreed

[Inliytened1]

23 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

consider what I did as waking up to hitting the snooze button. I am not fully awake until I live from my insights and understanding.

Congrats very nice.  But enlightenment in itself is not the same as embodiment.  You may be ready to wake up to what God is, even experience God, and even realize you are God.  But you may not be ready to embody or live as God.  That is hard to do when the ego is strong.  But anyway to awake without psychedelics means you already do have a level of maturity to you but also takes freakish genetics ( I am in the same boat so I know)  but don't put pressure on yourself to embody what you have been shown this takes time and is separate from awakening proper.  

[r0ckyreed]

9 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Congrats very nice.  But enlightenment in itself is not the same as embodiment.  You may be ready to wake up to what God is, even experience God, and even realize you are God.  But you may not be ready to embody or live as God.  That is hard to do when the ego is strong.  But anyway to awake without psychedelics means you already do have a level of maturity to you but also takes freakish genetics ( I am in the same boat so I know)  but don't put pressure on yourself to embody what you have been shown this takes time and is separate from awakening proper.  

Thanks. I appreciate your insight and support.  

You are right. There is a distinction between enlightenment and embodiment that I can draw. I have been questioning God ever since I heard about the “concept” at 3 or 4 years old. Always been fascinated about God and philosophy even before I learned what philosophy was. It was even more amazing to discover the actuality of what God is.

I know that there are still deeper levels of understanding possible (I.e., like knowing how I am constructing/imagining all of reality). But ultimately, my implicit understanding/intuition is telling me that God cannot know itself at the deepest levels because it is Itself and all knowledge and duality are contained within It.

Edit: Solipsism was the hardest for me to accept on my journey. However, at times throughout my life, I considered Solipsism but then I turned away from it because of how crazy it seemed to me at the time. But It is all one field of experience interacting with itself. 

I want to thank all “parts” of Myself for helping me to arrive at this point. 
 

P.S. I apologize for derailing the topic. I am glad that you have found inspiration from the quotes.

Peace and much love! Stay inspired!
❤️??????

Edited March 16, 2022 by r0ckyreed