I've awoken to the fact that everything is imaginary.

[Godishere]

@Someone here nice man. I'm just going off your previous posts that were very conceptual/intellectual and making assumptions from my own experience. How did you awaken? Like what was the actual process! How did it happen? Tell us more, I want to drown in infinite love too ? I just don't think I'm ready for the solipsism part entirely.. I still enjoy my dream pretending there's a world outside my perceptions.

[machiavelli]

33 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 Wrong. Its actually the most beautiful thing that could ever happen to you. Once you awaken you will drown in infinite love forever .what more could you want than being God? The only being in existence. Omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent.  I was never happy like that in my life .

@Someone here But how sequencing happen?  When I as God speak to my dummy friends they reply me as if they have consciousness of their own. It seems they have their POV also.

How do you explain multiple POV?

How does decisions in one dream affect character in another dream? For ex- Right now If I as GOD say something bad to my imaginery parents and they feel bad about it. Do in their dream they will feel the exact same thoughts? 

And vice versa. 

How does decisions of One POV affect decisions in another POV? 

ARE THE DREAMS CONNECTED ? OR SEPARATE? 

 

[Gesundheit2]

3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

You're stuck on normie solipsism.

You want God solipsism? Alright, let's talk God solipsism.

Do you think I have my own experience? If so, how do you know? If not, we simply return to normie solipsism.

[Gesundheit2]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

I'm only telling it to myself since there is no one else but me to tell it to. And you are myself.

Lol. I'm just waiting to see Leo's reaction to this.

[Gesundheit2]

10 hours ago, Kksd74628 said:

@Gesundheit2

Would lucid dreaming stop you from interacting with other dream characters? What else there is not do - but continue living - after you have awoken to the fact that you are in lucid dream that you can't wake up from? Also take in account that when you read this thing - and think that your own existence right NOW disproves this logic - you are the one alone right NOW.

Thing is that we live in different dreams that happen different time and they seem to be connected. Actually the "experiencer" is the same in all dreams and that is why "I" am "you" and "you" are "me". Be honest and tell me that your thoughts about "others" living right NOW are only thoughts in your mind that you haven't ever actually proved for yourself.

This line of thinking is going to be the joke of the 21st century, and probably for millennia to come.

[Someone here]

@Godishere I just listened to Leo's solipsism video. It was by no exaggeration the best video he ever made  .its a shams that he took it down. 

 It guided me directly to myself as God. And I've also contemplated this stuff for myself for years. It's all clear to me right now. Im the only conscious thing In existence and everything is my dream .I'm eternal bliss and goodness that there are no words to describe. 

But you can get there through many ways  psychedelics, meditative exercises. Or simply questioning the hell out of everything until you completely deconstruct your mind and sense of reality. 

20 minutes ago, machiavelli said:

@Someone here But how sequencing happen?  When I as God speak to my dummy friends they reply me as if they have consciousness of their own. It seems they have their POV also.

How do you explain multiple POV?

How does decisions in one dream affect character in another dream? For ex- Right now If I as GOD say something bad to my imaginery parents and they feel bad about it. Do in their dream they will feel the exact same thoughts? 

And vice versa. 

How does decisions of One POV affect decisions in another POV? 

ARE THE DREAMS CONNECTED ? OR SEPARATE? 

 

There is only one Dreamer. YOU. YOU are imagining your parents .but not just them. The entire physical universe is your own imagining at work .

Edited March 8, 2022 by Someone here

[OBEler]

@Someone here so not just the imaginary human I am right now but others too. Not just my Laptop screen but every Atom  in entire universe and beyond? 

[machiavelli]

@Someone here If I am correct right now present moment is only exist for me  . And all other things like people outside walls of my room are just my imagination. Their are actually no poeple outside the walls of my room.

I am sitting in room. And the visual field what i am seeing right now is all there is that exist. And then when I go somewhere and encounter someone I imagine other people and their thoughts in my visual field. Wherever I go I imagine everything as single GOD having one POV.  

Right?

You meant to say it appears like the dream is one and you and me are present at same time. But its not true. My dream and your dream are completely separate? Right?

It appears like all is happening at once? To create a illusion of other people having their own internal thoughts?

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by machiavelli

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, machiavelli said:

I am correct right now present moment is only exist for me  . And all other things like people outside walls of my room are just my imagination. Their are actually no poeple outside the walls of my room.

It seems that according to the actualized philosophy, there can be nothing outside of your consciousness, which is the only consciousness, and from there follows the logical consequence that others do not exist. for me this is a simplistic line of thought, but who knows

[Someone here]

10 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Someone here so not just the imaginary human I am right now but others too. Not just my Laptop screen but every Atom  in entire universe and beyond? 

Yes .

5 minutes ago, machiavelli said:

@Someone here If I am correct right now present moment is only exist for me  . And all other things like people outside walls of my room are just my imagination. Their are actually no poeple outside the walls of my room.

I am sitting in room. And the visual field what i am seeing right now is all there is that exist. And then when I go somewhere and encounter someone I imagine other people and their thoughts in my visual field. Wherever I go I imagine everything as single GOD having one POV.  

Right?

You meant to say it appears like the dream is one and you and me are present at same time. But its not true. My dream and your dream are completely separate? Right?

It appears like all is happening at once? To create a illusion of other people having their own internal thoughts?

 

It's just you .other people are projection of your mind .but not your finite mind  your god mind .the infinite mind .every thing Is your dream .including other people's thoughts and feelings. It's all a dream. 

[OBEler]

@Someone here man... This would be the most incredible thing possible. 

But I asked Leo the same question Hand he said it is just the Laptop screen. Thats it. 

 

Dont know if I misunderstood him. Of course from my limited pov everything else is just hold in my concept and is on different Level of imagination (I imagine, I am on Planet earth, in a house, am 35 years old and so on) and therefore not real. But this insight is not deep, my first allad Trip already showed me this insight. So what is he talking about. 

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by OBEler

[Kksd74628]

@Godishere

By stop pretending. It's like asking how can I win running competition when I pretend to be the slowest one. There is only one thing and that is the movie which is presenting these words and that's it. And my question is that why do you need others when you are as happy as you can by yourself and if not then that is the next thing you need to learn.

[Kksd74628]

@machiavelli

The mistake you are making with your thought pattern is to assume that every dream is happening at the same time. Thing is that the only dream which is happening is the one you are having and that's it. Stop believing people around you having their own experience, because that is what prevents you from understanding what is being said.

When you sleep at night and you have one dream do you really believe that other dreams are happening simultaneously? Only way to have new dream is to stop the previous and start new. Thinking that there is something else than the movie which has these words in it is the problem everyone in this forum seems to be making. When you were kid, people told you that tooth fairy and santa claus weren't real and NOW I am telling that other people having own experience right NOW is not real. Just accept the damn thing and the confusion goes away - you are all alone.

[OBEler]

@Kksd74628 Dream and this world here are fundamental the same. But relative speaking there are differences. This world is more stable, more complex, therefore if I kill someone in dream no one suffers because my limited human mind cannot imagine that someone feels the pain.

If I kill in this world someone, there is pain happening and God will feel it.

Edited March 8, 2022 by OBEler

[machiavelli]

@Kksd74628 Thanks for response. I know I am all alone.

But the thing what bugs me is how does sequence happen . In this dream I as GOD living in this imaginery body and imagining every other beings which I encounter. I imagine their dialogue. I imagine my parents dialogue. Just like in dream.

But the problem arisis what about my parents dream? Will the dialogue in their dream will be same? Will they imagine me saying the same dialogue to them? How mindfuck is this?

How to explain sequencing? What comes first chicken or egg? Who imagined the dialogue first my parents in their dream or Me in this dream?

[Kksd74628]

@OBEler

Stop your unnecessary thinking and bite the bullet and stop believing to others. This is not a debate, but I am just trying to show you how this thing works and if you are not interested in knowing then go to do something else and come back when you are ready to face the truth  Spirituality is not about whose theory is the best, but about what is actually in the case.

[machiavelli]

@Someone here Yes I know its my dream. But have you even wondered what comes first? If I say something in this dream to my imaginery parents and imagine their response. Will in their separate dream they will imagine machiavelli asking the same question?

What comes first? Who imagined first ? Is it me or my parents?

[Kksd74628]

@machiavelli

Sequencing happens like when you die you will have new dream and that's it. Which of "us" happened "first", to that I can't anwer and actually that is unnecessary to understand what I am trying to tell. They happen at different time and that is the only thing you need to understand. Will the dialogy be the same? Yeah unless you are having dream where things happen differently. That is all you should need to know to understand what I tell you.

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, machiavelli said:

@Someone here Yes I know its my dream. But have you even wondered what comes first? If I say something in this dream to my imaginery parents and imagine their response. Will in their separate dream they will imagine machiavelli asking the same question?

What comes first? Who imagined first ? Is it me or my parents?

You imagine them first. They don't exist outside your mind .just like a dream. 

[machiavelli]

@Kksd74628 Makes sense. It appears GOD is dreaming infinite separate dreams at once. Which each dream actions doesnt affect other dream.