Understanding Russia & Putin

[Husseinisdoingfine]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

How Chinese propaganda supports Russia invasion:

Pretty clear where China's loyalties lie.

You watch SerpentZa?

[Lyubov]

I have no clue why Russia trusts China lol 

they are about to be exploited far more by them than the west ever could 

https://amp.economist.com/leaders/2019/07/27/partnership-is-much-better-for-china-than-it-is-for-russia

[mmKay]

 

Edited March 14, 2022 by mmKay

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I have no clue why Russia trusts China lol 

It's not that they trust them, it's that their agendas align because they both want to counterbalance Western hegemony.

Of course China has the upper hand economically in that alliance.

[hello1234]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

want to counterbalance Western hegemony

I don’t think they want to “counterbalance” it, rather they want to “dominate”

[Truth Seekah]

 

[Arcangelo]

I understand Putin he's got NPD.

[K Ghoul]

 

Musk wants to fight Putin

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, K Ghoul said:

 

Musk wants to fight Putin

not the greatest idea, Putin is good at judo is a KGB guy and killer (as Biden said)

Elon Musk is a mildly autistic nerd

[vizual]

Uh oh, this may be the day Elon Musk decided to create Skynet to defeat the Russians, of course only for it to become self aware and... well...

[Hardkill]

13 hours ago, vizual said:

They will think twice before planning to invade Taiwan. If NATO countries start sanctioning China it will be a big blow for their economy. NA, EU and Japan are their biggest export markets, Russia imports relatively little from China.

NA and EU should stop their sanctions. The Sanctions are very likely to stop Russia from invading Ukraine and it seems that anymore sanctions on Russia will be useless on them but at the same time will only undermine the global economy, even including the western countries’ economies.

[Hardkill]

14 hours ago, vizual said:

They will think twice before planning to invade Taiwan. If NATO countries start sanctioning China it will be a big blow for their economy. NA, EU and Japan are their biggest export markets, Russia imports relatively little from China.

NA and EU should stop their sanctions. The Sanctions are very likely to stop Russia from invading Ukraine and it seems that anymore sanctions on Russia will be useless on them but at the same time will only undermine the global economy, even including the western countries’ economies.

[vizual]

3 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

NA and EU should stop their sanctions. The Sanctions are very likely to stop Russia from invading Ukraine and it seems that anymore sanctions on Russia will be useless on them but at the same time will only undermine the global economy, even including the western countries’ economies.

@Hardkill  There is no economy if your country is being bombed to bits and rubble. Don't forget that Ukraine is the biggest country in Europe per square kilometer, if he can destroy such a country there's no imagining what he could be up to. And the only way to put pressure on Putin is through his own people, there's no bargaining with him any more. At least not for the foreseeable future. 

[Hardkill]

23 minutes ago, vizual said:

@Hardkill  There is no economy if your country is being bombed to bits and rubble. Don't forget that Ukraine is the biggest country in Europe per square kilometer, if he can destroy such a country there's no imagining what he could be up to. And the only way to put pressure on Putin is through his own people, there's no bargaining with him any more. At least not for the foreseeable future. 

Russia will very likely take Ukraine no matter what happens. Quite frankly, I think Zelenskyy is also continuing to hurt the global economy. Unless I am missing something, I think he’s already done enough to try to stand up against Putin. He needs to concede victory to Putin in order to stop anymore pointless bloodshed and destruction in his country and putting the economy of the world in great jeopardy. The Ukrainians can one day take their country back in the future through constant guerrilla warfare. I applaud Zelenskyy for his strength and courage as a leader, but right now he is not showing himself to be a wise leader with enough foresight.

Edited March 14, 2022 by Hardkill

[Blackhawk]

57 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

He needs to concede victory to Putin 

"Russian warship... Go fuck yourself."

 

It's better to be dead, than lose your country to a barbaric dictator.

[Hardkill]

12 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

"Russian warship... Go fuck yourself."

 

It's better to be dead, than lose your country to a barbaric dictator.

That is a really a foolish bull-headed mentality. It will be so much better if the Ukrainians fight back in the future when the time is right.

[Blackhawk]

5 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

That is a really a foolish bull-headed mentality. It will be so much better if the Ukrainians fight back in the future when the time is right.

That's so incredibly stupid that I don't even know where to start. It's not worth my time and energy to start listing up all the thousand things which is wrong with that insane idea.

[vladorion]

38 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

"Russian warship... Go fuck yourself."

 

It's better to be dead, than lose your country to a barbaric dictator.

I wonder what percentage of Ukrainian citizens think that. Especially amongst those stuck sitting in basements with no food and heat.

"Russian warship... Go fuck yourself." - This story turned out to be fake. All those soldiers are alive and well.

[Blackhawk]

6 minutes ago, vladorion said:

"Russian warship... Go fuck yourself." - This story turned out to be fake. All those soldiers are alive and well.

I'm aware of that. But the "go fuck yourself" was what came to my mind.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Blackhawk

[Lyubov]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not that they trust them, it's that their agendas align because they both want to counterbalance Western hegemony.

Of course China has the upper hand economically in that alliance.

The thing is it looks more like a show of force to me. I read that all those projects and stuff they apparently started to work on together apparently have stalled greatly and in reality they have actually done little together to help each other develop. It’s all bark no bite this “partnership.” Chinese historically actually hate Russia and actually might see this as a way to get revenge on them. China can just sit back now and wait for Russia to rely on their payment systems, tech and cheap products amongst other things. They also get to see what they can do better to avoid getting fucked trying to take Taiwan.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Lyubov