Leo featured in suicide cult article

[Loba]

@RMQualtrough People can heal, but they have to be in what is called the hollow bone state to do it, not on drugs... but there through a natural process, where the healer is called to heal and works with spirits and deities, this involves working through all previous personal issues so you can take on the energy of the inflicted, and then diagnose.  Leo isn't a healer, he's just a dude, he wasn't called by any spirit to heal - so he has no understanding of genuine paranormal.  He's a normie using substances and getting a taste of what shamanism is about...

https://brill.com/previewpdf/book/edcoll/9789004376311/BP000012.xml#:~:text=We are called to become,Helpers and the community together.

^  A short read.

[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, Loba said:

@RMQualtrough Leo isn't a healer, he's just a dude, he wasn't called by any spirit to heal - so he has no understanding of genuine paranormal.  He's a normie using substances and getting a taste of what shamanism is about...

 

I like you   although normie might be cutting him to the quick

 

 

[Loba]

@Inliytened1 Thank you...!  I appreciate that! <3  Much love to you, too man! <3

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Loba said:

@Inliytened1 Thank you...!  I appreciate that! <3  Much love to you, too man! <3

Hey listen we all are born with certain genetics.  I'm not 6"2.  Leo is not spiritually gifted and requires psychedelics.  It does not mean he is any less awake.  

[Loba]

@Inliytened1 I'm trying to "humanize" him a bit - people view him as too much of this, too much of that, and some of my words are just to take it down a bit and just see him as a person.  He uses normie a lot so, I felt like using it.  I don't see Leo as anything special.  He's just "a guy", and if people view him as this, then the forum might have a healthier relationship with him - just like if he started to get serious about how he speaks on the forum a bit more. 

---------------

https://windspeaker.com/news/footprints/holy-man-lived-hollow-bone-philosophy

Here's summore info on the hollow bone state.  Fool's Crow was one of the most accomplished medicine men of his time.

Fools Crow repeatedly said the more humble and unselfish a person is, the more willing Wakan Tanka and his helpers of the four directions are willing to work through them.

The agreement, and then change of pace pertaining to this convo was weird.  I will avoid you... you're a manipulator.  

Edited March 9, 2022 by Loba

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Loba said:

@Inliytened1 I'm trying to "humanize" him a bit - people view him as too much of this, too much of that, and some of my words are just to take it down a bit and just see him as a person.  He uses normie a lot so, I felt like using it.  I don't see Leo as anything special. 

This is the perfect unbiased view and I commend you for it.  Excellent.  

[RMQualtrough]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Don't take this the wrong way.  But you have no idea what you are talking about.   You are not God realized let alone had an experience of God. 

Psychic powers have nothing to do with any form of realization. Magick makes a laughing stock out of all non-dual traditions, especially the excuses used to avoid proving claimed powers.

Guess how "God" levitates a candle? He uses hands to pick it up... Or maybe a hurricane... Or tying it to a bird... Or maybe giving it little RC helicopter propellors... Or maybe some of that invisible string magicians use, hm...

[RMQualtrough]

1 hour ago, Loba said:

@RMQualtrough People can heal, but they have to be in what is called the hollow bone state to do it, not on drugs... but there through a natural process, where the healer is called to heal and works with spirits and deities, this involves working through all previous personal issues so you can take on the energy of the inflicted, and then diagnose.  Leo isn't a healer, he's just a dude, he wasn't called by any spirit to heal - so he has no understanding of genuine paranormal.  He's a normie using substances and getting a taste of what shamanism is about...

https://brill.com/previewpdf/book/edcoll/9789004376311/BP000012.xml#:~:text=We are called to become,Helpers and the community together.

^  A short read.

Dude lol... We just suffered a global pandemic. Why didn't one of these healers in the "hollow bone state", walk around a bunch of hospital wards and heal everyone.

Instead we were locked up indoors for two years.

It's not legit bro...

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:

Psychic powers have nothing to do with any form of realization. Magick makes a laughing stock out of all non-dual traditions, especially the excuses used to avoid proving claimed powers.

 

 

If u continue to speak ignorance you will be banned on this forum 

 

[RMQualtrough]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

If u continue to speak ignorance you will be banned on this forum 

Leo wouldn't appreciate that. I've had quite good exchanges with him, probably because we've both used psychs a lot... Poor Leo has even had to unlock the threads you randomly locked for no reason to fuel this constant egoic power trip.

Maybe stop that?

Magick = delusion = ignorance = jiva level thoughts. Jiva trying to control Brahman. How can images on the screen seize control of the screen? You're in Maya... These ideas make a mockery of nondual tradition.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:

Leo wouldn't appreciate that. I've had quite good exchanges with him, probably because we've both used psychs a lot... Poor Leo has even had to unlock the threads you randomly locked for no reason to fuel this constant egoic power trip.

Maybe stop that?

Magick = delusion = ignorance = jiva level thoughts. Jiva trying to control Brahman. How can images on the screen seize control of the screen? You're in Maya... These ideas make a mockery of nondual tradition.

What you mean unlocked this thread because you tried to call him out? Do you really think if I banned you right now he would question that?

[Loba]

@RMQualtrough It's complicated, it is very possible that is what the healers have done - they work from the same places that you go to when you are on psys.  The Other.  Side of reality.  And they can tweak things, and learn things about reality.  It's possible that the reason the virus never ended up being as serious as it was is because of healers.  Who knows?

To work directly with something, you need to have some knowledge of it - and if there is no knowledge beforehand then they need to learn how to combat it.  I believe that fate has given us science as a healer as well, that the hollow bone state and using science together is the best option. 

Just like how so many died from small pox because they did not have previous knowledge of it - that is what happened here.  Healers generally work with medicines, chants, and go into the Other to work with illnesses that have long been known.  We don't have automatic understanding of how things work, we have to learn about it first.

I had written you a longer post, but actualized logged me out and lost the whole thing, sorry.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Loba

[RMQualtrough]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What you mean unlocked this thread because you tried to call him out? Do you really think if I banned you right now he would question that?

What did I have to do with the locking and unlocking?

Half the threads on the forum are locked because you lock everything to feel important or whatever. Pure unadulterated ego. More ego than a random stranger on the street... Stop with this.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, RMQualtrough said:

What did I have to do with the locking and unlocking?

Half the threads on the forum are locked because you lock everything to feel important or whatever. Pure unadulterated ego. More ego than a random stranger on the street... Stop with this.

Healing is an actual phenomenon ?

[RMQualtrough]

@Loba Science is the healer bro. What are medicines made of? What are bodies made of? Medicines and bodies are "consciousness" (Brahman).

Leo realized God levitates a candle by picking it up with his hands. Not by focusing on it real hard with psy powers etc.

The world around you is not separate from "God". Science is direct exploration of God.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, RMQualtrough said:

@Loba Science is the healer bro. What are medicines made of? What are bodies made of? Medicines and bodies are "consciousness" (Brahman).

Leo realized God levitates a candle by picking it up with his hands. Not by focusing on it real hard with psy powers etc.

The world around you is not separate from "God". Science is direct exploration of God.

So you are a materialist and rationalist.   It's OK.  You have had your glimpses on DMT.  But then you doubt those awakenings and you return to science and the materialist paradigm..   you are the worst of the worst.  You are one who has seen the Truth but then turns their back on it for their culture.  I pity you.

[K Ghoul]

22 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:

Magick = delusion = ignorance = jiva level thoughts.

 

Are you sure?

 

 

[Loba]

@RMQualtrough I agree with what you're saying, I think it's both.

My experience with healing spiritually happened in 2016 after my first awakening.  I was struck down with an illness that made my teeth get loose and my hair fall out and I could not get off the couch for over a year, I slept on it, lived on it practically and felt like I was dying daily, and no doctor could give me an answer - so I gave in to possible death, and then woke up - had an awakening and God was there, and so was every soul that ever is or would be, all in unison.  It was amazing.  Not long after, my hair grew back and my teeth tightened up, and although I still have some sickness, I can move around and do things - I don't feel like, this chronic hurty-disease pain all over anymore.

Healing can happen - and it is from that state that healers go into.  But I think science is part of the miracle - and I was also given an awareness that the material world is part of "me", in a way.  I think real healers are just very rare, because of how our world is set up nowadays, we don't rely on miracles the way we used to.  Healers used to be able to tweak the fabric of reality much more immensely than they do now.

It's something you would have to experience, but I think you're close just based on the posts you've made.

I think spiritual healing and science will merge someday.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Loba

[lostingenosmaze]

2 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

I'm reminded of when Leo in a state of psychedelic delirium attempted to levitate a candle. Then, he picked up the candle and laughed: "This is how God levitates a candle."

Haha which video was that? I don't remember this

[RMQualtrough]

@lostingenosmaze Leo will probably be able to tell you. His videos are super long, I don't recall now which one it was.

But that summarizes magick well. The miracle of levitation is performed by picking up the candle with your hands.

When the jiva/ego starts to think IT has control, people start spouting off The Matrix tier falsehoods and New Age cope. Someone very recently posted a video by Swami Sarvapriyananda on this topic, but in that case was on the topic of why reading minds is not possible.