Is F+ request morally wrong?

[Jannes]

Thanks for all the feedback so far it really helps. 
 

I know many women who had a phase in their life in their teens or early 20s who had a lot of casual sex without much emotions so it’s definitely a thing. I will make clear what I want. I will say something like „… At this moment in my life I don’t feel like having a relationship…“. So this way it doesn’t sound so personal. For me this feels like it’s the most right thing to do. 

[Jannes]

16 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

There is nothing immoral in such question if asked in a respectfull way.

Should I feel objectified if someone wants to talk to me for just being heard without asking about my thoughts and my situation?

"Am I some kind of chatbot or a psychologist. A least psychologist is being paid."

Or should I feel objectified when a hungry person asks me for food/cash? " Am I some kind of vending machine or ATM?" 

Of course not. Any kind of relationship is an agreement of some sorts and you can openly ask about the points od agreement wheter it be food, emotional support, hugging or sex.

We are just as much our body as our minds (not at all from spiritual point of view) So if someone ask me for my body and not mind and I get angry I could theoretically also get angry if someone only wants my mind and not body ( for example only talk to me)

But you can have in back of your mind that there is a objectification trauma for women in the social matrix and it would be beneficial to be as loving and respectfull as possible. 

That’s a great point. Many girls use guys for emotional support but would never have sex with them. It’s the same thing basically. Guys feel abused and not manly after that. 

[Jannes]

Also her Tinder description is just „;)“ 

What do you think of that? It could be a flirty sign, a let’s have fun sign or let’s bang sign ?

[Leo Gura]

You shouldn't explicitly ask girls for sex.

If you don't vibe with her you shouldn't be sleeping with her.

[NoSelfSelf]

@Leo Gura If you see that a girl is into you why not just ask for sex directly ?

[Preety_India]

@NoSelfSelf@. Because they feel objectified. 

 

8 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Leo Gura If you see that a girl is into you why not just ask for sex directly ?

 

[puporing]

3 hours ago, Jannes said:

That’s a great point. Many girls use guys for emotional support but would never have sex with them. It’s the same thing basically. Guys feel abused and not manly after that. 

LoL how about guys who want to both use the woman as emotional dumping ground (as opposed to connecting) and "no strings" sex? This is actually really common from my experience.

Point is reciprocity. A one sided relationship of whatever kind becomes toxic.

Edited March 2, 2022 by puporing

[Dryas]

I’d think I won the lottery if I had an attractive girl say that to me. This might be a once in a lifetime opportunity. 
 

Then again, maybe you’re just a very different personality type so you do you. 
 

Edit: Well, I’m just realizing now that I misread the OP. I don’t think it’s immoral though. 

Edited March 3, 2022 by Dryas

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Leo Gura If you see that a girl is into you why not just ask for sex directly ?

Because she will say no.

If you make girls feel like sluts the universe will punish you for it.

[Hello from Russia]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because she will say no.

If you make girls feel like sluts the universe will punish you for it.

Did you encounter many girls that "love" being slutty and completely own it? I see a lot of good world class porn actresses are like that and it's kinda a turn on.

What makes it cool is that they are like this in real life too, not just in porn. Hence why they choose such a profession

Edited March 2, 2022 by Hello from Russia

[Preety_India]

8 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

I see a lot of good world class porn actresses are like that and it's kinda a turn on.

Everyday girls on the streets aren't porn actresses. 

The porn industry makes men have unusual ideas about women and womanhood. 

Try being more in touch with the regular women on the street and women won't need to explain much. 

 

[Bobby_2021]

50 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If you make girls feel like sluts the universe will punish you for it.

Is there a thing like this or did you just made it up??

[Hello from Russia]

54 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Everyday girls on the streets aren't porn actresses. 

The porn industry makes men have unusual ideas about women and womanhood. 

Try being more in touch with the regular women on the street and women won't need to explain much. 

 

I don't deny its unusual. That's why it turns you on, sexually unrepressed women are rare

Edited March 2, 2022 by Hello from Russia

[Bando]

5 hours ago, Jannes said:

Also her Tinder description is just „;)“ 

What do you think of that? It could be a flirty sign, a let’s have fun sign or let’s bang sign ?

Invite her back to your place and try to make a move its ok to not vibe with someone yet still feel sexually attracted to them, also who says she wants a relationship she could also be looking for casual sex, don't make things more difficult.

If you two are attracted to each other or you can feel it, aim to make a move, there's nothing wrong with explicitly asking for sex but such a logical question can ruin the vibe especially if its the first time you guys are getting togther.

[Michal__]

2 hours ago, Hello from Russia said:

Did you encounter many girls that "love" being slutty and completely own it? I see a lot of good world class porn actresses are like that and it's kinda a turn on.

What makes it cool is that they are like this in real life too, not just in porn. Hence why they choose such a profession

Even women who completely own their whore side don't just have sex with you because you ask.

[Yog]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If you make girls feel like sluts the universe will punish you for it.

 

[Preety_India]

3 hours ago, Hello from Russia said:

I don't deny its unusual. That's why it turns you on, sexually unrepressed women are rare

Yea that's why in reality it doesn't work. In reality women reject sex a lot. For women, sex is a precious thing. 

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Yog said:

 

THIS

[Preety_India]

2 minutes ago, Aleister Crowleyy said:

@Preety_India everything makes a women feel objectified and ""used"". You women have this fixation on your '"BODIES"". 

No need to blame. Women feel what they feel. 

[Hello from Russia]

9 hours ago, Michal__ said:

Even women who completely own their whore side don't just have sex with you because you ask.

You guys project a ton of shit onto me, none of which is true

Edited March 3, 2022 by Hello from Russia