Facebook allows praise of neo-Nazi Ukrainian battalion if it fights Russian invasion

[hello1234]

4 hours ago, Arcangelo said:

How come you are still here after talking like that?

MODS!

Just an FYI, yesterday this guy commented on my “please donate to Ukrainian army” post asking “how do I donate to Russian army” and then deleted it.

Edited February 26, 2022 by hello1234

[K Ghoul]

10 minutes ago, hello1234 said:

Why out of all topics to cover the situation in Ukraine you decided to post this? What important message about the war in Ukraine are you trying to convey? 

 

I am writing a research paper on the issue of National Socialism and white supremacy that exists in our society, if you must know. 

This article is relevant to what I am working on and interested in. You or someone else having a problem with things that interest me is just not something that I care about. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by K Ghoul

[Arcangelo]

2 minutes ago, hello1234 said:

Just an FYI, this guy commented on my “please donate to Ukrainian army” post asking “how do I donate to Russian army” and then deleted it.

Sure.

 

[hello1234]

4 minutes ago, K Ghoul said:

 

I am writing a research paper on the issue social nationalism and white supremacy that exists in our society, if you must know. 

This article is relevant to what I am working on and interested in. You or someone else having a problem with things that interest me is just not something that I care about. 

Have you considered researching russian nationalism and white supremacy groups? Because I can guarantee you it’s a 100 times worse there, you’ll get much more info for your paper. Why are you focusing on Ukraine? 

Edited February 26, 2022 by hello1234

[K Ghoul]

Just now, hello1234 said:

Have you considered researching russian nationalism and white supremacy groups that exist in russia? Because I can guarantee you it’s a 100 times worse. Why are you focusing on Ukraine? 

 

You can't be serous...

Would you like me to switch my thesis and the subject of research? Or would you like me to just sit silently in the corner and not say a word - would that help get you off my back? 

[Arcangelo]

1 hour ago, K Ghoul said:

Reported you for harassment.

Me too. We are not going to tolerate this gaslighting BS.

[hello1234]

 

2 minutes ago, K Ghoul said:

Or would you like me to just sit silently in the corner and not say a word - would that help get you off my back?

Yes, please stop spreading russian propaganda when russian army is currently killing innocent Ukrainian people. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by hello1234

[K Ghoul]

1 minute ago, Arcangelo said:

Me too. We are not going to tolerate this gaslighting BS.

Okay let's just wait. I will try my best not to engage anymore haha

[hello1234]

4 minutes ago, K Ghoul said:

Okay let's just wait. I will try my best not to engage anymore haha

Honestly you’re despicable, I don’t know how this whole thing is funny to you. I can’t imagine being a heartless troll like you are to a country whose people are bombed.

[Carl-Richard]

This thread will go bye-bye if you guys don't start behaving soon.

[K Ghoul]

7 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@K Ghoul 

You claim to be doing some kind of research and yet you don't even know that Nazism is a short for national socialism. And keep asking @hello1234 to confirm what she means as if she just invented this term. Looks like someone skipped history lessons in school...

Edit: lol, I just went to Wikipedia, and it's literally the first thing written there. I guess you are lazy not only with the titles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

 

 

Finally, someone who could explain these terms to me. Thank you! 

[hello1234]

1 hour ago, K Ghoul said:

Finally, someone who could explain these terms to me. Thank you! 

@Something Funny

She’s trolling and being provocative on purpose, the war in Ukraine is just entertainment for her. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by hello1234

[K Ghoul]

By Yarno Ritzen and Al Jazeera Investigative Unit
Published On 10 Jul 2020 Facebook used extensively to spread neo-Nazi music.

 

"Last year, Facebook announced it would no longer allow white supremacist content on its platform, claiming, “these concepts are deeply linked to organized hate groups and have no place on our services”. 

An Al Jazeera investigation identified some 120 pages belonging to bands with openly white supremacist and racist views.

Facebook has removed several pages belonging to music groups espousing white supremacist ideology following an investigation by Al Jazeera into the prevalence of such bands on the social media platform.

Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit identified more than 120 pages from mostly heavy metal groups and record labels with direct ties to white supremacy. The pages had gained a total of more than 800,000 likes and some have been online for more than 10 years.

After sending five examples to Facebook, the platform initially removed three of the pages of such bands, adding that the two others were under review. Later, one other page was removed.

The four removed pages of the SoldierSS of Evil, Whitelaw, Frakass and Frangar groups all violated Facebook’s policies, according to the social media giant.

However, other pages identified by Al Jazeera are still online in breach of the company’s policies on hate speech.

The news comes the same week Facebook released an internal audit that heavily criticised the company’s record on addressing civil rights and preventing hate speech.

The findings also come two weeks after more than 500 companies, including Coca-Cola and Starbucks, pledged to no longer advertise on Facebook as long as it does not take concrete steps to block hate speech amid a national and international reckoning over racism following the death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man, at the hands of white police in the United States.

Anti-semitic lyrics and swastikas

Al Jazeera discovered the majority of the pages have been online for years, with many actively posting news on upcoming performances, music releases and advertising for merchandise, sometimes using white supremacist imagery.

One of the more popular pages belongs to M8l8th, a black metal music act from Ukraine, whose full name means Hitler’s Hammer.

The two 8s refer to the letter H, the eighth letter in the alphabet. Both 88 and the double H are common shorthand in neo-Nazi circles for Heil Hitler.

In its songs, M8l8th uses parts of a speech by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels and the Horst Wessel-Lied, the official anthem of the Nazi Party from 1930 to 1945.

The band’s founder, a Russian national named Alexey Levkin, is closely linked to Ukraine’s far-right nationalist Azov Battalion, which is currently fighting in Ukraine’s continuing conflict against Russian-backed separatists.

Levkin is also one of the organisers of Asgardsrei, a neo-Nazi music festival held annually in Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv. Festivalgoers have been seen waving swastika flags and making Nazi salutes.

Al Jazeera identified Facebook pages belonging to bands that have performed at Asgardsrei, including Goatmoon, a Finnish black metal band whose page has more than 12,000 likes.

Despite denying links to white supremacy, an image posted on the band’s Facebook page shows a picture of one of the guitarists with a tattoo blurred. Uncensored pictures indicate that the tattoo is of a swastika."

Source:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/7/10/exclusive-facebook-used-extensively-to-spread-neo-nazi-music

 

 

There seems to be concrete reasons why someone would associate Azov Battalion with neo-Nazism. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by K Ghoul

[Roy]

There is a stupid corrupt war going on right now at this very moment and innocent people are dying, doesn't really serve anybody to bring up inflammatory whataboutisms in the middle of it.

I would suggest everybody take a break from the constant news cycle, the whole situation is already stressful enough.