How long should you stay out (Night Game)

[Striving for more]

• I understand there's no exact answer, and if I'm really enjoying myself & don't have prioritees next day ect.. then sure I may occasionaly stay out all night until sunrise ... these moments always happen sometimes in the year. 

But what is sustainable pick up?

• Should I go out early & leave earlier, or go out late until 3-5AM  & change my daily schedule so I can still sleep 7 hours & then wake up at say 11-12
• Or should I become like Sad ghuru & get really spiritual & "only need 4 hours of sleep" 
• How do you do regular pick up & have fun, but still chase your ambitious goals & intellectual persuits, reading, learning, creativity, starting a biz / Job
• Is it even possible? 
• Sometimes I think I should create intention to just "become a dating coach" - In order to solve this dilemna, not sure if that's rlly for me though I dunno
• I think I want a lot of things, so many interests, I need to maybe I am overthinking right now..

I say this too because I have a desire to do intesnsive pick up, this is more exciting & worthwhile than half hearted 2 nights a week, but I can't fathom how I'd manage to mix it with everything else, or maybe I can & this is my mind always thinking in scarcity. 

*Also > from my (limited & biased) experience > Hot girls are normally around at the beginning of the night in bars & Clubs, isn't this the 20% of the 80/20 rule to concentrate at the beginning & not stay out that late? 

Edited February 25, 2022 by Striving for more

[aurum]

38 minutes ago, Striving for more said:

Should I go out early & leave earlier, or go out late until 3-5AM  & change my daily schedule so I can still sleep 7 hours & then wake up at say 11-12

Either of these is likely the answer.

38 minutes ago, Striving for more said:

Or should I become like Sad ghuru & get really spiritual & "only need 4 hours of sleep" 

If you can pull that off, PM me because I need coaching from you.

39 minutes ago, Striving for more said:

How do you do regular pick up & have fun, but still chase your ambitious goals & intellectual persuits, reading, learning, creativity, starting a biz / Job

A lot of times you don’t. There are potential synergies and time management strategies you can use, but  you can only have so many top priorities. So pick your priorities wisely.

When I was hardcore doing cold approach, I didn’t spend much time on my life purpose / career goals. Now I’m focusing more on life purpose / career and not on cold approach. 

The good news though is that action is the most important thing, no matter what you choose. The social and emotional skills you learn in pickup can later translate to better career success. And better career success can set you up for better success later in pickup. So just pick a path and have at it. 

49 minutes ago, Striving for more said:

Sometimes I think I should create intention to just "become a dating coach" - In order to solve this dilemna, not sure if that's rlly for me though I dunno

You could if you want. I did a tiny bit of that at one point to help pay the bills. Not necessary though as long as you have other financial means.

50 minutes ago, Striving for more said:

I think I want a lot of things, so many interests, I need to maybe I am overthinking right now..

Sounds like it.

Go with what is most interesting to you right now. What do you care about most?

51 minutes ago, Striving for more said:

I say this too because I have a desire to do intesnsive pick up, this is more exciting & worthwhile than half hearted 2 nights a week, but I can't fathom how I'd manage to mix it with everything else, or maybe I can & this is my mind always thinking in scarcity. 

I think what you’re really craving is full commitment. And that’s definitely something to strive for. Intensive pickup adds a layer of intensity but often can’t be sustained for too long unless someone like RSD Tyler who has dedicated their life to this.

54 minutes ago, Striving for more said:

Also > from my (limited & biased) experience > Hot girls are normally around at the beginning of the night in bars & Clubs, isn't this the 20% of the 80/20 rule to concentrate at the beginning & not stay out that late? 

The point of staying out late is that you’ll get the most pulls then. Pulls don’t usually happen early in the night because people are just getting settled. They’re not ready to go home yet. There are exceptions to this of course.

[Striving for more]

8 hours ago, aurum said:

When I was hardcore doing cold approach, I didn’t spend much time on my life purpose / career goals. Now I’m focusing more on life purpose / career and not on cold approach. 

I Understand how it's hard to balance ambition with intensive night game ..

But I don't think it has to be an either or scenario or Because ... 

No matter what you do you get burnt out from it ... but when there's contrast (I personally) don't get burnt out.   

After working or learning something for several hours, my brain needs rest & contrast ... to then go off on a walk & do some day game approaches, this is perfect because although it's stimulating & challenging, it's completely different to logical work or reading books ect.. 

I believe I can gradually improve at both aspects simulataenously, because of this, also because it's more about quality than quantity, like doing the approach properly & then analyzing it afterwards ... you only need a few approaches per day to gradually improve right?

But obviously I wouldn't be able to progress as fast as if I was constantly doing day & night game 24/7, but like most of us I have to pay the bills & also I have other things I like to learn & practice than pick up & don't plan to stop (Polymaths Rock).

So Imo I could do 3-5 day game approaches per day + 1- 3 nights out a week, when I'm also working on career & education a lot. 

Then when I have money / time, I can switch to intensive pick up. 

Even with the former I believe I could still make decent progress.

Edited February 25, 2022 by Striving for more

[aurum]

13 hours ago, Striving for more said:

I Understand how it's hard to balance ambition with intensive night game ..

But I don't think it has to be an either or scenario or Because ... 

No matter what you do you get burnt out from it ... but when there's contrast (I personally) don't get burnt out.   

After working or learning something for several hours, my brain needs rest & contrast ... to then go off on a walk & do some day game approaches, this is perfect because although it's stimulating & challenging, it's completely different to logical work or reading books ect.. 

I believe I can gradually improve at both aspects simulataenously, because of this, also because it's more about quality than quantity, like doing the approach properly & then analyzing it afterwards ... you only need a few approaches per day to gradually improve right?

But obviously I wouldn't be able to progress as fast as if I was constantly doing day & night game 24/7, but like most of us I have to pay the bills & also I have other things I like to learn & practice than pick up & don't plan to stop (Polymaths Rock).

So Imo I could do 3-5 day game approaches per day + 1- 3 nights out a week, when I'm also working on career & education a lot. 

Then when I have money / time, I can switch to intensive pick up. 

Even with the former I believe I could still make decent progress.

Sure that could work.

At one point I was out seven nights a week while still in graduate school. Wasn't sustainable long term, but I managed it for a few months.

The key is to find what works for you and your situation. You definitely don't have to copy what I did.

[Terell Kirby]

The more your social skills suck, the more deliberate practice is needed in the field. In the case of partying and nightclubs, stay till the party is over (assuming you are spending most of the time approaching and not standing in a corner)