Request to Leo, to make blog post/video about Putin behavior in Ukraine.

[Preety_India]

Zelensky reminds me of Trudeau. 

[Preety_India]

So you mean to tell me that this war is simply because Putin fears that Ukraine will join NATO. So he wants to do it before it joins NATO. 

Wtf? 

 

[funkychunkymonkey]

@hello1234 i thought that was funny as fuck i nearly pissed myself us russians have a different sense of humor please understand that xDDDD

[Preety_India]

Is there a real threat to Russia as a country if Ukraine joins NATO? 

Or is this silly bullshit political Psychopath games of Putin to keep his control going on forever and his paranoia over losing power? 

 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

38 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Is there a real threat to Russia as a country if Ukraine joins NATO? 

NATO has attacked countries while unprovoked.

• Yugoslavia
• Iraq
• Syria
• Libya

Countries with NATO bases on their borders have to put up with a lot, Iran for example has an issue with American drones flying over their border.

Being surrounded by NATO as well leaves the possibility for economic exploitation and embargos.

[Blackhawk]

59 minutes ago, somegirl said:

Of course the West would think Putin is crazy and "attacked for no reason". Do you really think someone would invade for no reason at all?

If people would not be so attached to their national identity, they would see why Russia is pissed. NATO has been playing with fire in a suble and nice way for a long time by expanding. They have eventually come to Russia's door (Ukraine).

If the leaders in Kremlin would just be decent normal humans, then they wouldn't mind to even be surrounded by NATO (which they currently aren't, not even close).

Like a decent normal person doesn't mind the police. But criminals do mind the police.

There are plenty of countries which doesn't mind being surrounded by NATO. How come?

NATO isn't a anti-Russia alliance. It's a alliance which defends itself against any military threats. And Russia has chosen to be a threat. And Russia could stop doing that. Russia is offensive and aggressive, and evil. And they could of course stop being that if they would choose to.

This is all on Kremlin.

Don't be a "useful idiot" for Kremlin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

31 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Is there a real threat to Russia as a country if Ukraine joins NATO? 

Or is this silly bullshit political Psychopath games of Putin to keep his control going on forever and his paranoia over losing power? 

 

No there isn't.

It's the latter.

[Preety_India]

11 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

NATO has attacked countries while unprovoked.

• Yugoslavia
• Iraq
• Syria
• Libya

Countries with NATO bases on their borders have to put up with a lot, Iran for example has an issue with American drones flying over their border.

Being surrounded by NATO as well leaves the possibility for economic exploitation and embargos.

Why am I supposed to believe you? 

Who knows what NATO's intentions really were with countries like that! 

This has to be some cooked up shit. 

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Preety_India

[Blackhawk]

4 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

NATO has attacked countries while unprovoked.

• Yugoslavia
• Iraq
• Syria
• Libya

Countries with NATO bases on their borders have to put up with a lot, Iran for example has an issue with American drones flying over their border.

Being surrounded by NATO as well leaves the possibility for economic exploitation and embargos.

The truth is that they have been humanitarian operations, to protect civilians, stop genocide, and stop terrorism. 

And NATO did not go into Iraq. Just because some countries which happened to be members of NATO, went into Iraq, does not mean that NATO went into Iraq.

And NATO does missions which has UN mandate.

 

"NATO is an active and leading contributor to peace and security on the international stage. It promotes democratic values and is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. However, if diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military capacity to undertake crisis management operations alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organisations."

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

 

"NATO and the United Nations (UN) share a commitment to maintaining international peace and security. The two organisations have been cooperating in this area since the early 1990s, in support of peace-support and crisis-management operations. The complexity of today’s security challenges has required a broader dialogue between NATO and the UN. This has led to reinforced cooperation and liaison arrangements between the staff of the two organisations, as well as UN specialised agencies."

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_50321.htm

[Preety_India]

Just now, Blackhawk said:

The truth is that they have been humanitarian operations, to protect civilians, stop genocide, and stop terrorism. 

And NATO did not go into Iraq. Just because some countries which happened to be members of NATO, went into Iraq, does not mean that NATO went into Iraq.

And NATO does missions which has UN mandate.

 

"NATO is an active and leading contributor to peace and security on the international stage. It promotes democratic values and is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. However, if diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military capacity to undertake crisis management operations alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organisations."

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

 

"NATO and the United Nations (UN) share a commitment to maintaining international peace and security. The two organisations have been cooperating in this area since the early 1990s, in support of peace-support and crisis-management operations. The complexity of today’s security challenges has required a broader dialogue between NATO and the UN. This has led to reinforced cooperation and liaison arrangements between the staff of the two organisations, as well as UN specialised agencies."

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_50321.htm

Good job. That's the truth. 

So I support Ukraine here. Russia needs to back off. 

 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

Is there a real threat to Russia as a country if Ukraine joins NATO? 

Or is this silly bullshit political Psychopath games of Putin to keep his control going on forever and his paranoia over losing power? 

 

I think the only threat is to their pride, but I would say that for the Russians that is very important

Edited February 26, 2022 by Breakingthewall

[Preety_India]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

think the only threat is to their pride, but I would say that for the Russians that is very important

No immoral move has ever gone unpunished in human history. Russia will regret this. 

Morality is more valuable than pride. 

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Preety_India

[somegirl]

27 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Like a decent normal person doesn't mind the police. But criminals do mind the police.

That's not true analogy. Someone here mention, I forgot who, that even if someone put a gun to your head and said they won't shoot, that won't help you feel at ease at all. The same with this Ukraine/Russia situation.

[somegirl]

14 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

The truth is that they have been humanitarian operations, to protect civilians, stop genocide, and stop terrorism. 

16 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

"NATO is an active and leading contributor to peace and security on the international stage. It promotes democratic values and is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. However, if diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military capacity to undertake crisis management operations alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organisations."

17 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

"NATO and the United Nations (UN) share a commitment to maintaining international peace and security. The two organisations have been cooperating in this area since the early 1990s, in support of peace-support and crisis-management operations. The complexity of today’s security challenges has required a broader dialogue between NATO and the UN. This has led to reinforced cooperation and liaison arrangements between the staff of the two organisations, as well as UN specialised agencies."

If you actually believe that, without joking, I don't even have any comment to write. I am too stunned to commnet lol. 
Keep believeing what you're being sold and ignore all the facts that say otherwise.

Life certainly seems much better when we live in a fantasy.

[Carl-Richard]

3 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

NATO is a purely antagonist organization that deserves to be abolished.

Abolishing NATO would be a bit like abolishing government.

[Blackhawk]

14 minutes ago, somegirl said:

That's not true analogy. Someone here mention, I forgot who, that even if someone put a gun to your head and said they won't shoot, that won't help you feel at ease at all. The same with this Ukraine/Russia situation.

 

9 minutes ago, somegirl said:

If you actually believe that, without joking, I don't even have any comment to write. I am too stunned to commnet lol. 
Keep believeing what you're being sold and ignore all the facts that say otherwise.

Life certainly seems much better when we live in a fantasy.

You are simply wrong.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

 

[Fleetinglife]

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

No immoral move has ever gone unpunished in human history. Russia will regret this. 

Morality is more valuable than pride. 

V. I. Lenin

"On the National Pride of the Great Russians" 

Published: Sotsial-Demokrat No. 35, December 12, 1914. Published according to the text in Sotsial-Demokrat.

Source: Lenin Collected Works, Progress Publishers, [197[4]], Moscow, Volume 21, pages 102-106.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/dec/12a.htm

Interesting short not long read about that very topic, that the two are not mutually exclusive and irreconcilable, but rather from what perspective and standpoint one chooses to interpret them and apply them. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Fleetinglife

[somegirl]

33 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

+1

Putin is an insine one though, right? Let's forget NATO's bombing of Syria, libya, Yugoslavia... lol

I just feel bad for the people of Ukraine. They literally don't have anything to do with what their sick politicians decide to do and they die needlessly. Prayers to them. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by somegirl

[Husseinisdoingfine]

1 minute ago, somegirl said:

Putin is an insine one though, right? Let's forget NATO's bombing of Syria, libya, Yugoslavia... lol

And no one care how Israel just bombed Syria last week. Syria is still under American pig sanctions.

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

And no one care how Israel just bombed Syria last week. Syria is still under American pig sanctions.

i care