NYT: Biden says the U.S. believes Putin has decided to invade Ukraine.

[kieranperez]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/18/world/russia-ukraine-biden-putin?referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR3DoFDPScv4B_urwTlLr7fkj1yrRr97XsT6sigPuaBXBaVpL1gr4yzFBzc#biden-holds-urgent-talks-with-nato-leaders-amid-growing-signs-that-war-is-imminent-in-ukraine

[Yarco]

Notice that

"Putin has decided to invade Ukraine"

and

"Biden says US believes Putin has decided to invade Ukraine"

are very different statements.

Don't try to read between the lines or extrapolate. Only interpret what their propaganda is telling you literally. The US thinks/believes something. No actual invasion has started taking place. No declassified info that an invasion is imminent.

Look at the press conference last week where the reporter pushed back for facts/evidence for minutes straight and got none.

I don't see what suddenly made them "believe harder", all they've got are satellite images of troops on the border, and maybe spies or intercepted communications. All of which could also just be deceptions to provoke a response.

(I didn't read the article because it's behind a paywall/login. And the 2nd article on the topic I tried was also behind a paywall.)

Edited February 19, 2022 by Yarco

[Gregory1]

Your title is fake news and clickbait at it's best. I've reported it, that's not acceptable.

[kieranperez]

Just now, Gregory1 said:

Your title is fake news and clickbait at it's best. I've reported it, that's not acceptable.

It's literally the title of the article.

The important piece is reading the actual article not getting hung up on headlines.

[Blackhawk]

 

[kieranperez]

Just now, Blackhawk said:

 

Thanks! I'll check out those videos. I certainly hope that's the case. Who knows what's actually going on but I sure hope that would be the case. I think it would be a foolish move on Putin's end to really initiate a Third World War. 

[Blackhawk]

15 minutes ago, kieranperez said:

Thanks! I'll check out those videos.

You're welcome.

15 minutes ago, kieranperez said:

I think it would be a foolish move on Putin's end to really initiate a Third World War. 

Russia invading Ukraine wouldn't start third world war.

Ukraine is all alone since it's not a Nato member. If you want help and protection you have to be a member of Nato.

Edited February 19, 2022 by Blackhawk

[Preety_India]

Why is Russia invading Ukraine? 

 

[Blackhawk]

2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Why is Russia invading Ukraine? 

Because Putin wants Soviet Union back.

Edited February 19, 2022 by Blackhawk

[Preety_India]

1 minute ago, Blackhawk said:

Because Putin wishes Soviet Union back.

Then let Russia invade the whole world! 

[Blackhawk]

1 minute ago, Preety_India said:

Then let Russia invade the whole world! 

What? What do you mean?

[Yarco]

At this rate, Russia won't have to invade. There are lots of independent states of separatists in Ukraine and surrounding region that want to break off and become a part of Russia.

Would you oppose a group of people democratically deciding they want to break off from their country and become part of Russia? Should the US interfere and go to war over this? Say if the people of Alaska held a referendum and decided it wanted to secede and join Russia.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, kieranperez said:

It's literally the title of the article.

It literally isn't. I changed the title for you.

[K Ghoul]

Russia is currently evacuating residents of Donetsk Luhansk

Edited February 19, 2022 by K Ghoul

[Twenty]

18 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

You're welcome.

Russia invading Ukraine wouldn't start third world war.

Ukraine is all alone since it's not a Nato member. If you want help and protection you have to be a member of Nato.

What I remember about NATO was, it would allow, I'd rather not say it. 

Edited February 19, 2022 by Twenty

[Blackhawk]

I think it's kinda interesting that no one in this forum cares about that the largest democratic country in Europe is about to get invaded by Russia.

[K Ghoul]

45 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

I think it's kinda interesting that no one in this forum cares about that the largest democratic country in Europe is about to get invaded by Russia.

We will get more active when the action begins. Right now they are still just evacuating 

[PurpleTree]

51 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

I think it's kinda interesting that no one in this forum cares about that the largest democratic country in Europe is about to get invaded by Russia.

what are you going to do about it?

[Blackhawk]

6 hours ago, K Ghoul said:

We will get more active when the action begins. Right now they are still just evacuating 

True.

6 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

what are you going to do about it?

Um, nothing?

[Fleetinglife]

10 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

the largest democratic country in Europe 

Ukraine is a flawed democracy even by Democracy Index and European standards. It is one of the most corrupt and poorest countries in Europe by GDP per capita. It's incestuous current political elite bans and silences opposition candidates that disagree on or oppose it's Ukranianization policies, banning and disinsentivizing the Russian langague as one of the official languages of the country, revision of controversial Ukrainian nationalist historical figures and events in the countries history, interpretation and reinterpretation of historical events and a complete breakaway and wiping away of it's Soviet past and traditions and baning Communist Party of Ukraine candidates to run in any of the national elections of the country. 

Edited February 20, 2022 by Fleetinglife