My humble two cents on the solipsism video and my struggle with the concept

[bashara]

Hello. I'm a new joinee to this forum but have been following Leo's content on YouTube and been engaging in self contemplation for a long time now. I just wanted to say something regarding the now removed solipsism video. I had left a comment in the video itself regarding what I'm about to say, solipsism is an idea that I have been struggling with for some time now. My first visceral experience with the concept was a few years ago when I ingested some hash with high THC content. It made me acutely aware that my perceptual bubble is all I have ever experienced and all I WILL ever experience. The thought that I can never get outside of this field made me severely claustrophobic and gave me an extremely dreadful panic attack. The ordeal lasted for a few hours, but still to this day whenever I'm taking any mind altering substance like marijuana or simply trying to attune myself with the present moment I find myself going back to that frightful headspace. This is something that has been interfering with my attempt to establish a consistent meditation habit, and turning out to be a hindrance in my spiritual journey as a whole. I was extremely intrigued when I saw Leo's definitive video on solipsism today, as the past videos have only brushed past the concept (like the videos titled "What is reality" or the videos on God consciousness) with Leo mentioning that he isn't talking about solipsism when he says there is no other, but they didn't fully deconstruct the idea of solipsism and compare it with non duality. I feel truly sad to see the video taken down, so I just wanted to ask if there is a way to access the material as I believe it would've helped with my current struggle in my spiritual journey. I would really appreciate some guidance to overcome this obstacle. Thank you!

Edited February 14, 2022 by bashara

[LordFall]

I've had similar experiences with taking psychedelics and getting lost in my own self/ego. It seems like a cool concept, I'm confused why it was removed. Most of the topics here are too deep for the average joe, why is this one any different? Perhaps have it on the blog/somewhere else where only people that are truly engaged have access to it, I'm sure I would've found value in it. 

[Julian gabriel]

13 hours ago, LordFall said:

I've had similar experiences with taking psychedelics and getting lost in my own self/ego. It seems like a cool concept, I'm confused why it was removed. Most of the topics here are too deep for the average joe, why is this one any different? Perhaps have it on the blog/somewhere else where only people that are truly engaged have access to it, I'm sure I would've found value in it. 

@LordFall Even the ones who are truly engaged may be engaged with something that puts their minds at ease, far from the sharp painful truths.

Being alone for most is a painful truth. But of course that's only because its a painful truth for you. 

[Gili Trawangan]

15 hours ago, bashara said:

The thought that I can never get outside of this field made me severely claustrophobic and gave me an extremely dreadful panic attack.

It was indeed a thought that caused the panic attack.

True nature is infinite and absolutely free. And there is no one to be trapped in any field, there is no self.

You will not get this from listening to Leo, as he dismisses no-self as some minor discovery. Which is precisely the reason there's so much confusion about this solipsism nonsense.

Search elsewhere for the answers: a good old-fashioned deconstruction of self and hardcore meditation, together with a psychedelic here and there, if you get the calling.

[Nahm]

17 hours ago, bashara said:

solipsism and compare it with non duality.

Solipsism is an ism, a belief, the activity of thought. 

Nonduality points to, ‘not two’, allowing the self discovery of actuality, ? vs adherence to a conceptual belief. 

(Just advice) Never suppress discord. Explore it, understand. 

https://www.actualityofbeing.com/the-emotional-scale

If it’s aligned, if it resonates in feeling… ‘my perceptual bubble’ is already believing in conceptual. Let that go all together. 

Ime, make a dreamboard. Allow the revealing of truth directly via conscious creating… the life you desire to experience. 

Truth is ‘known’ as feeling… and not ideas shared. 

[Reciprocality]

As long as you are living you can not transcend concept, but you can transcend the belief that the object of reference trough concept is external and something 'in itself' beyond the reference itself, as in beyond your mind.

Solipsism as a metaphysics based in the (knowledge of the boundary of mind) as the boundary to existence can either be assumed as absurd or assumed as perfectly cohesive or sensible.

The question then gets back to the original meaning of skepticism, in which alone the imaginary power poses the alternative to having already been convinced of a given claim. Such that if I said 'around my house there is a pink fence' you either believed the information as such or you problematize it trough imagination perhaps as 'I could easily conceive that a fence were white'. In which case we must ask what is the relation between the imagined and the claim, and what is the nature of such claims which can have an equal antithesis and precisely the nature of such claims beyond conceivable antitheses.

The solipsist is indeed a skeptic who regard his imagination as something which stands powerless to not only some but indeed all possible claims and information in general, the skeptic however is the least skeptic of all for he thinks that there where anything transcendentally meaningful in the claim such to deserve a wholehearted discourse in the first place. 

He then applies his abundance of speculative powers onto a claim he conceive of as both integral to his schema and powerful over the things in themselves from where he believes his schema were wholly built.

 

Solipsism regard the question of 'others' as a meaningful question to be defeated synthetically. In so doing it defeats its own premise in imagination being powerless. We could even say that he is in it for the 'game'.

Non-dualism does not regard the question as meaningful at all, indeed no question as meaningful at all.